Happy 60th India & Pakistan.

Owen · 14-08-2007, 11:01 PM

Someone had to say it.
Just sort yourselves out over Kashmir.

Vonjoyday · 14-08-2007, 11:05 PM

Dear Vonjoyday
Bye Bye you are banned.

Kyt · 14-08-2007, 11:12 PM

Just watched "The Day India Burned - Partition" on BBC2. Very sad first hand stories from both sides of the Partition, about the mess, dislocation and the killings.

And the main players - Mountbatton, Nehru, Jinnah and Gandhi - all come off badly.

I remember my father's stories of the trek from the Muslim side to the Hindu/Sikh side of Punjab when he was 9. Terrible.

So a day to celebrate as it meant Independence but not for the 1 million people who lost their lives.

Andy in West Oz · 15-08-2007, 01:52 AM

Should sort their problems out by playing cricket rather than sabre-rattling.

Two proud countries.

Kyt · 15-08-2007, 02:16 AM

Ha, you've obviously never been to an India-Pakistan match. War is much safer

Andy in West Oz · 15-08-2007, 02:20 AM

Wouldn't want to be a coach for them either!

But the fans are fun to watch!

Kyt · 15-08-2007, 02:26 AM

Over the last few years (since the thawing in relations) the fans have been pretty good. But it used to get quite ugly.

Owen · 15-08-2007, 07:39 AM

If I remember rightly, when we used to run to Slough Mail Centre, before it moved to Greenford and we lost alot of road-runs, there were two unloading ramps, one staffed by mainly Muslims, one by mainly Sikhs/Hindus.
My mate unloaded on one and went to the other to pick up the SN mail and the second ramp-staff refused to help him as he'd just come from the other.
The Indo-Pakistan problem even ran over to life in Slough.
I only ever went their twice in the middle of the night so I dunno if he was pulling my leg.

Kyt · 15-08-2007, 12:31 PM

May well be true - depends upon when this was. Communal relations could be strained at times depending upon whether India & Pakistan were sabre-rattling at the time.

And Slough went through a phase of bad communal relations due to gang warfare (which had spilled over from west London - the gangs were divided along religious lines, and the local colleges had a lot of problems).

Owen · 15-08-2007, 12:49 PM

This was back in the mid-late 90s.

Couple of lads ( Indian & Pakistani) at my work give each-other stick but it's no worse than our English-Scottish jibes.

14-08-2007, 11:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,065	Happy 60th India & Pakistan. Someone had to say it. Just sort yourselves out over Kashmir.

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Vonjoyday Discharged Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1	íîâûé âèä çàðàáîòêà â èíòåðíåò! ïàëþ òåìó ! Dear Vonjoyday Bye Bye you are banned. Last edited by Owen; 14-08-2007 at 11:10 PM.

14-08-2007, 11:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,105	Just watched "The Day India Burned - Partition" on BBC2. Very sad first hand stories from both sides of the Partition, about the mess, dislocation and the killings. And the main players - Mountbatton, Nehru, Jinnah and Gandhi - all come off badly. I remember my father's stories of the trek from the Muslim side to the Hindu/Sikh side of Punjab when he was 9. Terrible. So a day to celebrate as it meant Independence but not for the 1 million people who lost their lives. __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)

15-08-2007, 01:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 772	Should sort their problems out by playing cricket rather than sabre-rattling. Two proud countries. __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found

15-08-2007, 02:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,105	Ha, you've obviously never been to an India-Pakistan match. War is much safer __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)

15-08-2007, 02:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 772	Wouldn't want to be a coach for them either! But the fans are fun to watch! __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found

15-08-2007, 02:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,105	Over the last few years (since the thawing in relations) the fans have been pretty good. But it used to get quite ugly. __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)

15-08-2007, 07:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,065	If I remember rightly, when we used to run to Slough Mail Centre, before it moved to Greenford and we lost alot of road-runs, there were two unloading ramps, one staffed by mainly Muslims, one by mainly Sikhs/Hindus. My mate unloaded on one and went to the other to pick up the SN mail and the second ramp-staff refused to help him as he'd just come from the other. The Indo-Pakistan problem even ran over to life in Slough. I only ever went their twice in the middle of the night so I dunno if he was pulling my leg.

15-08-2007, 12:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,105	May well be true - depends upon when this was. Communal relations could be strained at times depending upon whether India & Pakistan were sabre-rattling at the time. And Slough went through a phase of bad communal relations due to gang warfare (which had spilled over from west London - the gangs were divided along religious lines, and the local colleges had a lot of problems). __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)

15-08-2007, 12:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,065	This was back in the mid-late 90s. Couple of lads ( Indian & Pakistani) at my work give each-other stick but it's no worse than our English-Scottish jibes.

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