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Kyt · 13-01-2007, 03:30 PM

Re: my post (#17), the best summary ever about the deniers is IMO:

"Up to today holocaust deniers have been unable to produce,in forty years of effort,a counter-narrative to the inherited history of Auschwitz.The deniers claim to be revisionist historians, but they have yet to produce a history that offers a plausible,"revised " explanation of the events in question.Until now,they have had a nihilist agenda.They have attacked the inherited account on the unproven assumption of some general conspiracy,but they have not been able,or willing,to produce serious revisionist historiography that gives us the origin and development of this conspiracy,the reason why and how it seized on,of all places,those very "ordinary " Auschwitz concentration camps as the fulcrum of its effort to hoodwink both gentiles and Jews,to leverage the international community in general,and defraud the Germans and the Arabs in particular.At the moment the best the negationist have done in this respect is either Arthur Butz's rambling and highly implausible suggestion that the origin of the conspiracy was somehow tied to the American need to accelerate in 1942 its synthetic rubber program,or a certain "Samuel Crowell's " more recent attempt to describe,in good post-modern fashion,Auschwitz as the result of "intertextuality."5 And if the actual war-time history of Auschwitz and Birkenau was indeed one of relative normality,comparable to the histories of Dachau,Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen,with only typhus epidemics as an extra permanent fixture to explain the increased mortality,then one should expect holocaust deniers to produce,accepting the criteria and constraints of accepted historical scholarship,a transparent and coherent account to that effect.At the moment nothing exists even resembling this.Certainly,the negationists have shown great creativity in inventing many alternative explanations for each aspect of the camp's history that seems to point to a deliberate program of genocide,but none of them are reconciled in one plausible narrative -a history that would force the negationists to choose between the many options they have imagined,to seriously engage with issues of relevancy and causation,and to apply judgement."

Van Pelt Report - Part Four - Section VII

Holocaust Denial On Trial

13-01-2007, 03:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,968	Re: my post (#17), the best summary ever about the deniers is IMO: "Up to today holocaust deniers have been unable to produce,in forty years of effort,a counter-narrative to the inherited history of Auschwitz.The deniers claim to be revisionist historians, but they have yet to produce a history that offers a plausible,"revised " explanation of the events in question.Until now,they have had a nihilist agenda.They have attacked the inherited account on the unproven assumption of some general conspiracy,but they have not been able,or willing,to produce serious revisionist historiography that gives us the origin and development of this conspiracy,the reason why and how it seized on,of all places,those very "ordinary " Auschwitz concentration camps as the fulcrum of its effort to hoodwink both gentiles and Jews,to leverage the international community in general,and defraud the Germans and the Arabs in particular.At the moment the best the negationist have done in this respect is either Arthur Butz's rambling and highly implausible suggestion that the origin of the conspiracy was somehow tied to the American need to accelerate in 1942 its synthetic rubber program,or a certain "Samuel Crowell's " more recent attempt to describe,in good post-modern fashion,Auschwitz as the result of "intertextuality."5 And if the actual war-time history of Auschwitz and Birkenau was indeed one of relative normality,comparable to the histories of Dachau,Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen,with only typhus epidemics as an extra permanent fixture to explain the increased mortality,then one should expect holocaust deniers to produce,accepting the criteria and constraints of accepted historical scholarship,a transparent and coherent account to that effect.At the moment nothing exists even resembling this.Certainly,the negationists have shown great creativity in inventing many alternative explanations for each aspect of the camp's history that seems to point to a deliberate program of genocide,but none of them are reconciled in one plausible narrative -a history that would force the negationists to choose between the many options they have imagined,to seriously engage with issues of relevancy and causation,and to apply judgement." Van Pelt Report - Part Four - Section VII Holocaust Denial On Trial __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)