Berlin 1936, Berlin 2006

Owen · 13-06-2006, 11:25 PM

Berlin 1936
http://www.bwbs.de/bwbs_biografie/in...wg&m=2&id=1435

Source: HW
Visitors flocking to the opening ceremony through the eastern gate of the olympic stadium in Berlin

On 1 August 1936 Adolf Hitler opens the XIth Olympic Summer Games in Berlin’s Olympic Stadium. With a massive propaganda display the National Socialists attempt to improve their negative image for foreign visitors and the international press. For this purpose all indications of any persecution of Jews in Germany are banned from public life for the duration of the competition. Filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl produces two films, „Festival of Beauty“ and „Festival of the Peoples“, which document the games attended by three million and held in the Nazis’ typical bombastic style.

Olympic Torch arrives at the Olympic Stadium. Photograph courtesy Getty Images
http://www.bharatiyahockey.org/grant...pics/page4.htm

http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/past...GT=1&OLGY=1936

Berlin 2006

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/....html?i=12&d=1

A Brazil fan is posing prior to the Brazil v Croatia Group F soccer match at the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, Germany, Tuesday, June 13, 2006.
A Brazil fan is posing prior to the Brazil v Croatia Group F soccer match at the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, Germany, Tuesday, June 13, 2006. The other teams in Group F are Japan and Australia. (AP Photo/Jasper Juinen)
Copyright: AP

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Not like the old days, eh?
Wish I was there.

adrian roberts · 14-06-2006, 12:42 AM

What a contrast!
The world we live in now may be shallow, materialistic, hedonistic. But isn't it better to live now than in Berlin, 1936 style (or in Osama Bin-Laden's no-fun zone come to that)? Look what happens when people sell themselves to an ideal!
The point is to not forget those who Sacrificed their Tomorrows for our Todays, and those who continue to defend those freedoms.
Of course the world is not a perfect place; there is still plenty to be done to make it so; there is still room for heroism and sacrifice. But as Wilfred Owen wrote: "Foreheads of men have Bled where no wounds were".

Adrian

Herroberst · 14-06-2006, 04:55 AM

Owen, I see we share similar tastes in Brazilian soccer fans.

Gotthard Heinrici · 14-06-2006, 09:27 AM

Great pics Owen!! The stadium now is not that different from the original design and I defy anyone to stand in that arena with our interest of history and not be moved in some way.

Owen · 14-06-2006, 09:37 AM

Berlin Stadium 1945
http://digitallibrary.smu.edu/cul/gi...es/mcs124g.htm

Quote:

The 1936 Olympic Stadium. This was a rather moving visit for me, as I recalled listening to the radio broadcasts from the Olympics in 1936. We were all so proud of the Americans who made such a great showing at this event and I had all these thoughts fresh in my mind as I sat and looked out over this beautiful stadium. [M.C.S.]

Owen · 14-06-2006, 09:38 AM

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von Poop · 14-06-2006, 09:51 AM

A slightly alarming pair of pictures Owen.

A German friend of mine has dozens of high quality pictures of the '36 olympics as her father was unofficial photographer in a Luftwaffe band, torchlit processions and all, every one illustrates the power of those intricately organised events. I'm sure one couldn't fail to be impressed at some level.

(She also has some of Goering at Rhichtofen's grave, all eyes in the crowd are turned downwards except for one little girl actually looking at the reichsmarschall. Great shot.)

Owen · 14-06-2006, 09:55 AM

http://www.dw-world.de/popups/popup_..._ind_1,00.html

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/...r.html?i=0&d=1

Owen · 14-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Roughly same view

http://www.authentichistory.com/audi...cs_Berlin.html

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/....html?i=93&d=1

Gnomey · 14-06-2006, 08:38 PM

It really hasn't changed a lot. I agree though that it is better to live in Berlin now that it was in 1936 (or 1986 for that matter).

13-06-2006, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,057	Berlin 1936, Berlin 2006 Berlin 1936 http://www.bwbs.de/bwbs_biografie/in...wg&m=2&id=1435 Source: HW Visitors flocking to the opening ceremony through the eastern gate of the olympic stadium in Berlin On 1 August 1936 Adolf Hitler opens the XIth Olympic Summer Games in Berlin’s Olympic Stadium. With a massive propaganda display the National Socialists attempt to improve their negative image for foreign visitors and the international press. For this purpose all indications of any persecution of Jews in Germany are banned from public life for the duration of the competition. Filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl produces two films, „Festival of Beauty“ and „Festival of the Peoples“, which document the games attended by three million and held in the Nazis’ typical bombastic style. Olympic Torch arrives at the Olympic Stadium. Photograph courtesy Getty Images http://www.bharatiyahockey.org/grant...pics/page4.htm http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/past...GT=1&OLGY=1936 Berlin 2006 http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/....html?i=12&d=1 A Brazil fan is posing prior to the Brazil v Croatia Group F soccer match at the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, Germany, Tuesday, June 13, 2006. A Brazil fan is posing prior to the Brazil v Croatia Group F soccer match at the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, Germany, Tuesday, June 13, 2006. The other teams in Group F are Japan and Australia. (AP Photo/Jasper Juinen) Copyright: AP http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/....html?i=88&d=1 Not like the old days, eh? Wish I was there. Last edited by Owen; 14-06-2006 at 10:14 AM.

14-06-2006, 12:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
adrian roberts Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NW Kent, England Posts: 763	What a contrast! The world we live in now may be shallow, materialistic, hedonistic. But isn't it better to live now than in Berlin, 1936 style (or in Osama Bin-Laden's no-fun zone come to that)? Look what happens when people sell themselves to an ideal! The point is to not forget those who Sacrificed their Tomorrows for our Todays, and those who continue to defend those freedoms. Of course the world is not a perfect place; there is still plenty to be done to make it so; there is still room for heroism and sacrifice. But as Wilfred Owen wrote: "Foreheads of men have Bled where no wounds were". Adrian __________________ for heathen heart that puts its trust in reeking tube and iron shard all valiant dust that builds on dust and guarding, calls not thee to guard thy mercy on thy people, Lord (Kipling)

14-06-2006, 04:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Herroberst Very Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the tree line Posts: 1,212	Owen, I see we share similar tastes in Brazilian soccer fans. __________________ Coir a glaive *Nemo me impune lacessit*

14-06-2006, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,698	Great pics Owen!! The stadium now is not that different from the original design and I defy anyone to stand in that arena with our interest of history and not be moved in some way. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino)

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Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,057	http://www.dw-world.de/popups/popup_..._ind_1,00.html http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/...r.html?i=0&d=1 Last edited by Owen; 14-06-2006 at 10:01 AM.

14-06-2006, 09:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,057	http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/...r.html?i=7&d=1

14-06-2006, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,087	A slightly alarming pair of pictures Owen. A German friend of mine has dozens of high quality pictures of the '36 olympics as her father was unofficial photographer in a Luftwaffe band, torchlit processions and all, every one illustrates the power of those intricately organised events. I'm sure one couldn't fail to be impressed at some level. (She also has some of Goering at Rhichtofen's grave, all eyes in the crowd are turned downwards except for one little girl actually looking at the reichsmarschall. Great shot.)

14-06-2006, 10:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,057	Roughly same view http://www.authentichistory.com/audi...cs_Berlin.html http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/....html?i=93&d=1

14-06-2006, 08:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gnomey Per Ardua Ad Astra Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 2,948	It really hasn't changed a lot. I agree though that it is better to live in Berlin now that it was in 1936 (or 1986 for that matter). __________________ "Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few" Sir Winston Chuchill, Summer 1940 "To him the people of Britain and the free world owe largely the way of life they enjoy today" Ensciption on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-1940) Statue in London Aircraft of World War 2 Forum - A Warbird Forum

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