North Irish Horse tank markings?

Sgt. Paul · 27-03-2007, 09:11 AM

I have a question regarding North Irish Horse tank markings in North Afrika.
Do anyone knows how they looked like, expecially the Churchill Tanks? (Divisional Markings? British 25th Brigade Markings?)

Would really appreaciate some help!

Many thanks,
Paul (A newbie)

Owen · 27-03-2007, 09:15 AM

I'm sure Gerry Chester will be along soon, he served with them.
Unfortunately his website seems to have dissappeared, shame , it had some excellent photos .
Paul, Welcome to the site.

Sgt. Paul · 27-03-2007, 10:22 AM

Thanks Owed D!
Looking foward to explore and use information World war II Talk. When you start digging in history there seems to be no end.

I should actually add another Tank Regiment, regarding tank markings (Churchill's); 51st Royal Tank Regiment in North Africa. If anyone knows of those two Regiments, North Irish Horse and 51st Royal Tank Regiment , I would be most grateful.
Thanks once more,
Paul

von Poop · 27-03-2007, 11:43 AM

Hi Paul,
Thankfully Gerry's fascinating website seems to be back online:
http://www.northirishhorse.org/
He's definitely your man.

Cheers,
Adam.

Owen · 27-03-2007, 01:34 PM

Good one Adam, I was following link on Gerry's profile.

Gerry Chester · 27-03-2007, 03:39 PM

Hi Paul, welcome to the forum!

Click on the link in Adam's posting. Then on 'Articles' then on 'Churchill Insignia'

With best wishes, Gerry

Sgt. Paul · 27-03-2007, 10:12 PM

Thank you all! Helped me a lot!

ourbill · 27-03-2007, 11:12 PM

Welcome to the Forum Sgt. Paul, hope you have a nice stay.

I have an interest in 51 RTR as well.
As you know 51 RTR was part of the 25 Army Tank Brigade till June 1942 when it was redesignated 25 Tank Brigade. On 5 Jan.1945 it was again redesignated this time to the 25 Armoured Assult Brigade Royal Engineers.

I notice you are a War Gamer, the following book could be of some help as it outlines the actions of 51 RTR in North Africa and Italy and was written by a serving NCO.
'Tank Battles in Miniature' No.4 A wargamers' guide to the Mediterranean Campaigns 1943-45' by Donald Featherstone. ISBN 0850592755. The book is out of print but can be found.

Roger(aka OURBILL)

Gerry Chester · 28-03-2007, 09:40 AM

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51 RTR was part of the 25 Army Tank Brigade till June 1942 when it was redesignated 25 Tank Brigade.

Hi Roger,

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When the Army Tank Brigades became part of the newly formed ‘Mixed’ Divisions in June 1942, they lost their independent status and had ‘Army’ dropped from their titles with the exception of 25th Army Tank Brigade.<O

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Although nominally part of 1st Infantry (Mixed) Division, 25th ATB retained its independent status for the eventual purpose of comparing its performance opposite 21st Tank Brigade (part of 4th Infantry (Mixed) Division) when deployed to <ST1

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Despite efforts of the proponents of ‘Mixed’ Divisions, the ill-conceived concept died before the Churchill Tank Brigades were committed to action in North-West Europe. 25th ATB dropped ‘Army’ prior to leaving for Italy<ST1

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Owen · 11-04-2007, 01:01 AM

This may help too.
http://www.armouredacorn.com/Referen...20complete.pdf

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27-03-2007, 10:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sgt. Paul Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	Thanks Owed D! Looking foward to explore and use information World war II Talk. When you start digging in history there seems to be no end. I should actually add another Tank Regiment, regarding tank markings (Churchill's); 51st Royal Tank Regiment in North Africa. If anyone knows of those two Regiments, North Irish Horse and 51st Royal Tank Regiment , I would be most grateful. Thanks once more, Paul

27-03-2007, 01:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Owen Grumpy Old Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,487	Good one Adam, I was following link on Gerry's profile.

27-03-2007, 03:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Originally Wallasey, Cheshire - Now a world-wide wanderer Posts: 852	Hi Paul, welcome to the forum! Click on the link in Adam's posting. Then on 'Articles' then on 'Churchill Insignia' With best wishes, Gerry

27-03-2007, 11:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
ourbill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lichfield, Staffordshire Posts: 238	Welcome to the Forum Sgt. Paul, hope you have a nice stay. I have an interest in 51 RTR as well. As you know 51 RTR was part of the 25 Army Tank Brigade till June 1942 when it was redesignated 25 Tank Brigade. On 5 Jan.1945 it was again redesignated this time to the 25 Armoured Assult Brigade Royal Engineers. I notice you are a War Gamer, the following book could be of some help as it outlines the actions of 51 RTR in North Africa and Italy and was written by a serving NCO. 'Tank Battles in Miniature' No.4 A wargamers' guide to the Mediterranean Campaigns 1943-45' by Donald Featherstone. ISBN 0850592755. The book is out of print but can be found. Roger(aka OURBILL)

11-04-2007, 01:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
Owen Grumpy Old Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,487	This may help too. http://www.armouredacorn.com/Referen...20complete.pdf

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