Gay Nazis??

[lancesergeant]

Marlene Dietrich was allegedly bisexual. I believe that homosexual practices would be rife in the upper echelons and would have gone on for the simple reason that the practitioners were high up. If it was joe soap they would have been on a one way ticket to a concentration camp.

[Cpl Rootes]

An interesting thorght, and your probably right.

[BulgarianSoldier]

Hmm dont thing that they were gays.It is imposible to see gays in such a disciplined army they dont take anyone in the army.And germans hate homosexuals they though it was a psichical illness.
I fully sure that this was a allied propaganda.But there is one proverb saying "You should respect your enemy as much as you respect your friends"

[Kyt]

"Homosexuality and the Nazi Party" by Scott Lively

http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/lively.html

"Hermann Goering liked to dress up in drag and wear campy make-up"

Originally Posted by Kiwiwriter

Oddly enough, there's a great deal of closeted homosexuality and homoeroticism in today's neo-Nazis.

"When Kuhnen (leader of the Action Front of Nationalist Socialists) came out of the closet in the mid-1980s, he caused a scandel among his followers. (he) defended himself by pointing out that several important figures in German history, including Frederick the Great, were homosexuals. For Kuhnen, there was something supermacho about being a Nazi as well as a homosexual, both of which reinforced his sense of living of living on the edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an impact" from "The Beast Reawakens" by Martin Lee pg 201)

Ironic!!

[Cpl Rootes]

Just because he dresses up doesn't mean he's gay. I watch a program about this subject several weeks ago. It was about men who like to cross-dress but are happily married and have no gay or bisexual feeling at all.

[BulgarianSoldier]

I think all this is propaganda.Dont ask me what the commis told us about US soldiers..

[Za Rodinu]

Is this why the Panzertruppen Waffenfarbe was pink?

Puts an entirely different complexion on things, doesn't it?

Don't Ask, Don't Tell? Frag nicht, Sag nicht?

[Weinrich]

It is sure that SA-leader Roehm was gay. It is still discussed if Hitler was gay or not. I guess that there have been a lot of gay nazis. As there are gay people everywhere. I do not see any link between being gay and being Nazi and I do not see how being gay should have had effects on the history of WWII. So where is the relevance of a sexual orientation for his war? I do not believe that Hitler attacked Russia to impress Stalin sexually. Or that he attacked France to get to Paris and its gay quarters. Therefore he arrived to early in the morning .

Knut

[Owen]

Originally Posted by Weinrich

It is sure that SA-leader Roehm was gay. It is still discussed if Hitler was gay or not. I guess that there have been a lot of gay nazis. As there are gay people everywhere. I do not see any link between being gay and being Nazi and I do not see how being gay should have had effects on the history of WWII. So where is the relevance of a sexual orientation for his war? I do not believe that Hitler attacked Russia to impress Stalin sexually. Or that he attacked France to get to Paris and its gay quarters. Therefore he arrived to early in the morning .

Knut

To be honest I only started this thread to stir up some activity when Forum was quiet.
Wasn't intended to be a gay-bashing thread.
Back in the 1940s though, in the UK, being gay was not something to be open about.

[Kyt]

Has anybody read Wilhelm Reich's The Mass Psychology of Fascism? I read it years ago, and that's why I've only just remembered it. Mainly based on psychotherapy, Reich states (if I remember rightly) fascism is based, or parts are based, on the whole (subsummed) latent homosexuality of all those who are attracted by this philosophy. The elements of overt masculanity etc are a classic example of sexual repression.

I really can't be bothered to dig around in book piles to dig it out, but anybody interested may want to look it up on the web.