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Old 28-05-2006, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What our MM's & RN went through

Check out these photos of a current Canadian Coast Guard vessel on search and rescue in Arctic waters.

Imagine how hard our Merchant Mariners's & RN etc did it during WW2 with none of the home comforts that are available now.

http://tv-antenna.com/canadian-ice/

There are also some High Seas photos which would surely make me sick....how about you?
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 28-05-2006, 10:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Check out these photos of a current Canadian Coast Guard vessel on search and rescue in Arctic waters.

Imagine how hard our Merchant Mariners's & RN etc did it during WW2 with none of the home comforts that are available now.

http://tv-antenna.com/canadian-ice/

There are also some High Seas photos which would surely make me sick....how about you?
Barents Sea, North Cape and the convoys to Murmansk spring readily to mind.....
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Bloody show offs!!!!!!

Then WW2 style.
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Like you say no creature comforts going on a two/three week or longer voyage - no choppers or rescue vessels. No GPS or distress beacons, and the other consideration that you had somebody trying to sink you by torpedo or shell.
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I've never seen anything like that - for which i'm glad. How come those 'snow bathing' seamen aren't freezing to death out there?
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Their thermal all in ones wouldn't be too far away from the comedic quartet.
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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actually there are are different kinds of cold, that is why, even in Britian, it is possible to walk in shirt sleeves during really cold weather!
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actually there are are different kinds of cold, that is why, even in Britian, it is possible to walk in shirt sleeves during really cold weather!
That is so true!

Take out the wind chill factor and you could be in Blackpool.
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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You've hit it on the button with the wind factor. Humans can survive in temperatures below zero. Wind chill can lower the temperature by 10's of degrees. Water is a twenty five times more efficient conductor of heat - hence you could stand on the ship - in the polar seas minutes. Both wind chill and cold water drain the body heat.
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actually there are are different kinds of cold, that is why, even in Britian, it is possible to walk in shirt sleeves during really cold weather!
Very true. I can wander around Buxton in December in just a jumper, whilst all of my uni mates, including the 'hard' ones from north scotland are complaining it's cold. Come on! It's only minus 8!
Those pictures are impressive. I know a lad who was a naval gunner on convoy PQ17. I think he suffered worse than that.
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