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Old 26-08-2008, 01:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Sounds to me like a way of saving face in view of a lot of screwups... Too bad it was based upon sacrificing a lot of men and a priceless monument of civilization.
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Warlord -
I suppose after 64 years it's easy to see many of the "screw ups" in the Italain campaign but the biggest to my mind was the total lack of a plan of any sort - whereas San Nazaire was very good plan -

one of the early screw ups was Clark's pulling the French back from near Altina to reinforce the failng 34th Division - had he reinforced the success of the French, then the tale might have been much different with thousands of casualties saved.

regarding the loss of the priceless monument - true many mosaics and frescoes could not be saved but - it appears that the Abbey is better than it was ...
have a look at this account ...
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Well, so it seems, although at the time, it meant the victory of evil over good.

Now, going back to Chariot: What was it that went so wrong? Was it too tight a plan, or were there execution flaws?
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Warlord -
Probably too far to go under enemy guns - can't really depend on all the sentries being asleep - there is alway one smarty pants !
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But, wasn´t there going to be an air raid to cover the approach of the convoy? Bad timing?
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