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Old 10-09-2004, 11:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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But yes, except on Omaha (even though that was still a victory), D-Day worked really well. And it did not work perfectly, Most units landed a mile or two from where they were supposed to. There was a lot of misdrops from paratroopers, and there was totall and utter chaos on the beach.
But, Yes, I would love to read your summary!
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Old 28-09-2004, 05:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally posted by =SWM= Capt. FG@Sep 10 2004, 10:36 PM
And it did not work perfectly, Most units landed a mile or two from where they were supposed to. There was a lot of misdrops from paratroopers, and there was totall and utter chaos on the beach.
Alot of the mistakes actually helped the allies- On Utah far an example, after D-day, after the allies looked at the results they saw that the planned landing place would have been almost as bloody as Omaha.

In every operation, there are going to be mistakes on both sides. The germans made perhaps many more mistakes than the allies, and they probably realized them after (I hope). War is unpredictable.

But I would agree that alot of the mistakes hindered progress.
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Old 28-09-2004, 05:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A bit to add to the Utah bit. This is off topic. For the most part the allies went according to orders, not changing them due to circumstances or their position. To a certain extent this is Okay. This landing to far from the beach is one place where they did well in not following orders (some wnated to restart and go back to the planned landing beach which would have wasted time). Another place where they should have disobeyed orders was with the amphipbious tanks- the tide was too high and most of the tanks went under. The Landing craft skippers except one didn't move toward shore into lower water because it would have disobeyed orders. In Italy, they should have taken advantage off their situation with the Germans on the run in central Italy. Instead of attacking them the allies kept at a slow pace and let the Germans regain themselves and secure Rome again. There are countless other examples and I suppose following Orders too much is better than not enough, and as I said earlier, every army makes mistakes, and I'm not the one to judge Ike and CO.
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