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Old 06-03-2006, 03:06 AM   #251 (permalink)
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One wonders what the invasion would have been like if it had happened in May instead.
The tides and weather ruled out launching the invasion in may.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:07 AM   #252 (permalink)
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The tides and weather ruled out launching the invasion in may.
One wonders what an invasion would have been like in July, when the germans would have been better ready.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:12 AM   #253 (permalink)
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One wonders what an invasion would have been like in July, when the germans would have been better ready.
Again, the tides and sea conditions would have made it very difficult. However, it would have allowed the Allied Air force more time to attack german targets in the invasion area.

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Old 15-03-2006, 09:12 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Exclamation Sappers account.

Just dragging this thread back to the top of the list to encourage people to read sappers posts about the landing from the beginning onwards, absolutely fascinating... obviously it descends into a shouting match halfway through (using the 'ignore' function on one poster makes it hilarious) but if you haven't read it then make bloody sure you do. Not only a personal account but from an obvious Gentleman too.
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Old 15-03-2006, 09:34 PM   #255 (permalink)
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(using the 'ignore' function on one poster makes it hilarious)
Please do tell.... which one do we 'ignore' to get the funny version?
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I'm sure a man of your perspicacity knows exactly who. Obviously as Gentlemen we wouldn't name names. It's funny how carrying a huge red button that says 'PRESS ME' encourages people to just push and see what happens.
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Old 16-03-2006, 02:49 PM   #257 (permalink)
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I've always enjoyed that game. The sign says End of the World Button, but do i care? do i chuff.
But thanks you to Sapper for giving a first hand account of D-Day. I have heard some stories from a RN sailor who piloted an American landing craft at Omaha, and he's very cool and calm when telling it, as he ran through all of his fear that day. Just glad i wasn't there.
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Old 18-03-2006, 03:56 AM   #258 (permalink)
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I've always enjoyed that game. The sign says End of the World Button, but do i care? do i chuff.
But thanks you to Sapper for giving a first hand account of D-Day. I have heard some stories from a RN sailor who piloted an American landing craft at Omaha, and he's very cool and calm when telling it, as he ran through all of his fear that day. Just glad i wasn't there.
Neither was Sapper. He landed on Sword Beach, not Omaha.
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Neither was Sapper. He landed on Sword Beach, not Omaha.
And where did you land? Or have you fought in any conflict then or since? What makes you the expert? Books?

I find it pathetic that 'armchair' heros should belittle the opinions of the veterans who paid for their views with their blood, sweat and tears and that of the comerades. Their experiences are a little more valid than those of someone who's only experience of the war are films, books and the internet don't you think?

It is strange that someone who shows no respect for the ideas of historians also shows none for the people who were part of the operation and pushes their inexperienced views as more valid than either.
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And where did you land? Or have you fought in any conflict then or since? What makes you the expert? Books?

I find it pathetic that 'armchair' heros should belittle the opinions of the veterans who paid for their views with their blood, sweat and tears and that of the comerades. Their experiences are a little more valid than those of someone who's only experience of the war are films, books and the internet don't you think?

It is strange that someone who shows no respect for the ideas of historians also shows none for the people who were part of the operation and pushes their inexperienced views as more valid than either.
That wasn't a belittling. The statement that was made was that it was eye-witness account. It was not. Sword and Omaha were two signficantly different types of beaches. I would think you would have known that. Sapper and I had the same "armchair hero" experience of Omaha beach. But, I have one perspective that sapper may not have. I am not trying to defend the Sword beach reputation. You act as if he, being a veteran of that war, is incapable of "putting on the dog" about Sword vs Omaha. Just because you were at one of them does not mean you are not biased and prideful of your own. I don't denegrate sapper. But I don't deify him either.
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