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Old 12-05-2008, 08:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Ian Kershaw - Hitler

Hi all.
Has anybody read these two books. Could you please give me a short review or let me know if they are any good, please.
Really itching to read a good book on the man.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Really itching to read a good book on the man.
I'd say they were about the best to be found Gage.
Alan Bullock's 'Hitler & Stalin : Parallel lives' is also well worth a shufti.

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Old 12-05-2008, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kershaw's books are excellent and well worth a "shufti" as my esteemed colleague would say. As unbiased as they could be they are nonetheless informative and I didnt find them hard going.give em a bash Gage!
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I don't know about those two books, but the best Hitler Biography I have read is:




Amazon.com: The Life And Death Of Adolph Hitler -: Robert Payne -: Books
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Foolishly I forgot to mention another Bullock work that should be on the required Hitler reading list - 'A Study in Tyranny'.
Also Shirer's 'Rise & Fall of the third Reich', excellent stuff on the gang in general with much Hitler detail from one who was there.
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Hmmm.. There r tons of Hitler-related books in my local book stores, when I look on 'em I can't choose one, because all of 'em seem to like 'yellow press' with those names like 'Women against Hitler' or 'Stalin against Hitler: a poet against artist', 'Hitler: the last 10 days' etc.... Anyway, authors and writers still pay attention for this person that he, IMHO, not worth! :-/
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Hitler was the quintessential 'douche bag', however, any person responsible for the deaths of some 50 million people is definately worth further and continued study. Learning about the man does not equate with honoring and respect. In most people I suspect the more they learn, the more exponentially the opposite effect increases. Those who consider him an unworthy subject of study are simply shortchanging themselves and history. I think one should never be afraid to ask the questions simply because the answers might scare them.

Anyway, buying a book about Hitler in the book store is usually rather entertaining as one dodges the stares and gasps of everyone in the immediate vicinity who automatically consider you some kind of ne-Nazi.

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Hitler was the quintessential 'douche bag', however, any person responsible for the deaths of some 50 million people is definately worth further and continued study. Learning about the man does not equate with honoring and respect. In most people I suspect the more they learn, the more exponentially the opposite effect increases. Those who consider him an unworthy subject of study are simply shortchanging themselves and history. I think one should never be afraid to ask the questions simply because the answers might scare them.

Anyway, buying a book about Hitler in the book store is usually rather entertaining as one dodges the stares and gasps of everyone in the immediate vicinity who automatically consider you some kind of ne-Nazi.
Hmmm I found him worthy to learn, but not so much as an amount of books about him

When last time I was in nearest book store and searching for some good book about The Kursk Salient's battle I've heard one of store's manager calling by phone customers that ordered some rare books and telling 'em that books arrived, and in some moment he told very loud 'Mr..Someone, it is book store, your book "Gebbels - bloody romantic of nazism" is arrived'.
As there were very quietly in book store the book name and its new owner can be heard around the store It was very funny moment ))
Also imagine me buying there book called "Sex in Third Reich" )) - interesting book but what a name ))
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Longish thread on the fascination of the man:
Hitlerite obsession.
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