The Forgotten Army - Page 4

Nellis kid · 25-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Yes, the main stage at the time concerning our green and pleasant land was the fight in europe.

also I believe although a more commonwealth campaign was pursued out in burma.

Dont forget leaders in the race to take germany could already see the cold war - or a communist/capitalist war ready to awaken. I feel it was more of a american corncern outside of our european battlefields

4th wilts · 25-01-2008, 05:01 PM

i did the american west at school too.but the t.v series world at war had a programme about kohima-imphal-burma battles,that was quite good.i wish we were taught about both wars though,lee.

chipmunk wallah · 03-04-2008, 03:59 PM

Luck of the draw really Lee,some schools in my area had the old west and history of medicine(no,never got the connection) but most had the 20th century,ie ww1,russian revolution,rise of the nazi's,ww2,a smidge on vietnam and the arab israeli confilcts.
Mind you,thats not to say these were taught with any balance,ie,russian revolution = good thing, nazi = bad thing(not disputing that one),ww2 was all about rescuing the jewish people from camps and,well,Im not even going where the arab /israeli confilct went....
But one thing,specificaly regarding the 14th army,its percieved there wasnt quite as much "romance" attached to liberating "natives" in places no one has heard of,put that against liberating Paris etc and you kind of see where they are coming from.

Mark Hone · 03-04-2008, 04:34 PM

There isn't supposed to be a connection. It's part of what is called 'The Schools History Project'. It's one of the two main History GCSE syllabuses, the other being Modern World History, which is now more popular and is what the other schools in your area were doing. The whole idea of SHP is to do a mixture of topics, which is in principle a good idea. Although I'm basically a Modern History buff, I don't think that it's a good idea for people to study Hitler and Stalin over and over again as some schools do. History is a subject with the broadest potential curriculum , for Heaven's sake. SHP is currently being revised. I'm not sure whether American West will survive. I think it's a fantastic period, but the main reason it was included on the original SHP syllabus was that Westerns were a big part of popular culture at the time. How long ago is that?

chipmunk wallah · 03-04-2008, 05:27 PM

well,Im going back over 15 years so.....
I kind of agree with you though,the whole Hitler thing was over egged to the detriment of wide ranging or even british history.

Gotthard Heinrici · 03-04-2008, 05:30 PM

Try living in a country were its main area of history was the "800 year struggle" against the British Empire. Talk about parochial.

4th wilts · 03-04-2008, 07:23 PM

forgotten again look.

chipmunk wallah · 03-04-2008, 08:03 PM

Shouldnt that read Bl**dy British empire Gott'?

03-04-2008, 03:59 PM	#33 (permalink)
chipmunk wallah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: By the mighty Don,no,not the Russian one :) Posts: 175	Luck of the draw really Lee,some schools in my area had the old west and history of medicine(no,never got the connection) but most had the 20th century,ie ww1,russian revolution,rise of the nazi's,ww2,a smidge on vietnam and the arab israeli confilcts. Mind you,thats not to say these were taught with any balance,ie,russian revolution = good thing, nazi = bad thing(not disputing that one),ww2 was all about rescuing the jewish people from camps and,well,Im not even going where the arab /israeli confilct went.... But one thing,specificaly regarding the 14th army,its percieved there wasnt quite as much "romance" attached to liberating "natives" in places no one has heard of,put that against liberating Paris etc and you kind of see where they are coming from. __________________ "I don't know a lot about anything - but I know a little about practically everything." Vincent Price in "Laura" 1944.(avatar,the gorgeous Miss Gene Tierney

03-04-2008, 04:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
Mark Hone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bury, Lancashire, England Posts: 307	There isn't supposed to be a connection. It's part of what is called 'The Schools History Project'. It's one of the two main History GCSE syllabuses, the other being Modern World History, which is now more popular and is what the other schools in your area were doing. The whole idea of SHP is to do a mixture of topics, which is in principle a good idea. Although I'm basically a Modern History buff, I don't think that it's a good idea for people to study Hitler and Stalin over and over again as some schools do. History is a subject with the broadest potential curriculum , for Heaven's sake. SHP is currently being revised. I'm not sure whether American West will survive. I think it's a fantastic period, but the main reason it was included on the original SHP syllabus was that Westerns were a big part of popular culture at the time. How long ago is that? __________________ In memory of Corporal Jack Hone (1923-2004), proud 14th Army 'Steelback'. Last edited by Mark Hone; 03-04-2008 at 04:38 PM.

03-04-2008, 05:27 PM	#35 (permalink)
chipmunk wallah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: By the mighty Don,no,not the Russian one :) Posts: 175	well,Im going back over 15 years so..... I kind of agree with you though,the whole Hitler thing was over egged to the detriment of wide ranging or even british history. __________________ "I don't know a lot about anything - but I know a little about practically everything." Vincent Price in "Laura" 1944.(avatar,the gorgeous Miss Gene Tierney

03-04-2008, 05:30 PM	#36 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Pog mo thon Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,019	Try living in a country were its main area of history was the "800 year struggle" against the British Empire. Talk about parochial. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian

03-04-2008, 08:03 PM	#38 (permalink)
chipmunk wallah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: By the mighty Don,no,not the Russian one :) Posts: 175	Shouldnt that read Bl**dy British empire Gott'? __________________ "I don't know a lot about anything - but I know a little about practically everything." Vincent Price in "Laura" 1944.(avatar,the gorgeous Miss Gene Tierney

25-01-2008, 02:15 PM	#31 (permalink)
Nellis kid Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 10	Yes, the main stage at the time concerning our green and pleasant land was the fight in europe. also I believe although a more commonwealth campaign was pursued out in burma. Dont forget leaders in the race to take germany could already see the cold war - or a communist/capitalist war ready to awaken. I feel it was more of a american corncern outside of our european battlefields

25-01-2008, 05:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
4th wilts Discharged Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wessex Posts: 1,032	i did the american west at school too.but the t.v series world at war had a programme about kohima-imphal-burma battles,that was quite good.i wish we were taught about both wars though,lee.

03-04-2008, 07:23 PM	#37 (permalink)
4th wilts Discharged Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wessex Posts: 1,032	forgotten again look.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
WW2 War Diary Abbreviations	von Poop	Unit Documents	16	30-11-2008 11:21 PM
THE WAFFEN-SS: Divisional Service History, Brigade/Battalion Unit List + Unit Notes.	Christos	Axis Units	74	30-05-2008 11:42 PM
The Patton prayer. December 8 1944.	The Aviator	World War II News Articles	0	05-12-2007 10:30 AM
The NIH in Italy - Part One- At War	Wise1	North Irish Horse	0	22-07-2006 01:15 AM
Indian Headgear	simonclarkson	Burma & India	4	22-04-2006 06:07 AM