Lend Lease Numbers From Russian Site

[spidge]

Originally Posted by stalin

Many of sent vehicles (tanks, planes, etc.) were in bad conditions (already saw military service). Lend-Lease vehicles were worse than modern Soviets ones. Goverment delays, smaller numbers.

You have had the opportunity to be balanced, yet you choose not to.

Poor fool. (English this time)

[laufer]

The site is translated - I didn't noticed that, sorry. Anyway, in my opinion most valuable part of Land - Lease aid and really important one for soviet military potential was what site Author classified as: "Other Lend-Lease goods" (explosives, fuel, tracks and jeeps, motorcycles, telephones and wires, radars, radios, locomotives and coaches, rails, rubber, metals, clothes, food, tobacco etc, etc).

[spidge]

I mentioned the rail associated product to the Stalinite last week with no reaction (again).

The numbers (volume) was staggering.

[plant-pilot]

Originally Posted by spidge

I mentioned the rail associated product to the Stalinite last week with no reaction (again).

The numbers (volume) was staggering.

And let's not forget that the huge volume of aid was transported through the arctic seas by convoys from the UK and US. At great risk to the ships and their crews as the convoys had to pass very close to occupied territory and were at the mercy of air attack as well as the normal U-boat threat.

And 'stalin' calls us 'ungreatful'!

[spidge]

I have posted this previously that the MM sailors running this route had the highest death rate of 1 in 24.

[plant-pilot]

Originally Posted by spidge

I have posted this previously that the MM sailors running this route had the highest death rate of 1 in 24.

Sorry spidge me old china plate, but I didn't think there was any harm in mentioning their bravery again under the circumstances. Didn't mean to tread on any toes.

[spidge]

No, that was not my intention at all. I was just supporting your post. I am still a little upset with the Stalinist fool belittling the sacrifice of these brave men.

[Owen]

Let me take the point "stalin" makes that the AFVs were inferior to Soviet made machines.
What would have been the option a) to recieve nothing or b) vehicles that could be used in training, quiter fronts and protection of Lines of Communication that would then free up the better Soviet machines for the more urgent battles?
In saying that some of these "inferior" Allied AFVs could still hold their own if handled correctly.

[von Poop]

Originally Posted by spidge

I mentioned the rail associated product to the Stalinite last week with no reaction (again).

Funny how he doesn't react to anything that genuinely confounds his assertions isn't it?, just tries another blurt or starts up with the insults.

[Owen]

Found this on the net (Feldgrau.net)
Here is an example of PQ convoy. In January of 1944, an American lend-lease convoy left Seattle bound for Vladivostok. Its manifest read as follows:

46 merchantmen (all 8-10K ton ships); built by McCormack Ship Yards; Soviet flagged (to avoid being torpedoed by the Japanese who could attack U.S. flagged vessels but who could not attack Soviet flagged ones) and Soviet crewed.

Six of the 46 ships were loaded with ammunitions and small arms. Four of the 46 ships were loaded with foodstuffs. Two of the 46 ships were loaded by Dodge (presumably with trucks). One ship was loaded by Westinghouse (presumably with communications gear).

They carried:


22.000 tons of steel provided by U.S. Steel.
3.000 truck chassis, by Ford (the Soviets also assembled U.S. trucks from parts).
3.000 truck differentials from Thornton Tandem Co.
2.000 tractors by Allis Chalmers Co. (agricultural and military use)
1.500 automotive batteries from the Price Battery Corp.
1.000 aircraft provided by the North American Aviation Co.
612 airplanes from the Douglas Aircraft Co.
600 trucks from Mack.
500 Allison aircraft engines.
500 half-tracks from Minneapolis Moline Co.
400 airplanes from Bell Aircraft
400 electric motors from Wagner Electric Co.
400 truck chassis by GM (see Ford above)
310 tons of ball bearings from the Fafnir Company.
200 aircraft provided by the U.S. Navy
200 aircraft engines by Aeromarine
100 tractor-trailer units by GM (trucks)
70 aircraft engines by Pratt & Whitney


The following table, not an inclusive one by any means, shows the extent of lend-lease aid the Western Allies provided to the Soviet Union from 01 October 1941 to 31 March 1946 (not a typo, aid went on well after WWII ended). CW - Commonwealth contribution; US - American contribution:

Aircraft - 7.411 (CW) + 14.795 (US) = 22.206
Automotive:
--- 1.5 ton trucks 151.053 (US)
--- 2.5 ton trucks 200.662 (US)
--- Willys Jeeps 77.972 (US)
Bren Gun Carriers - 2.560 (CW)
Boots - 15 million pairs (US)
Communications equipment:
--- Field phones - 380.135 (US)
--- Radios - 40.000 (US)
--- Telephone cable - 1.25 million miles (US)
Cotton cloth - 107 million square yards (US)
Foodstuffs - 4.5 million tons (US)
Leather - 49.000 tons (US)
Motorcycles - 35.170 (US)
Locomotives - 1.981 units (US)
Rolling stock - 11.155 units (US)
Tanks - 5.218 (CW) + 7.537 (US) = 12.755
Tractors - 8.701 (US)
Trucks - 4.020 (CW) + 357.883 (US) = 361.903