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Old 19-12-2005, 07:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some interesting numbers.

Like Reverend Bob the "non Arrivals - lost" would make you cry.

We also need to shed a tear for the gallant MM crews.

This site is Russian.

http://wio.ru/tank/ll.htm


The ships site is US ?

http://www.ww2pacific.com/lendlease.html
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(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site:
http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Stalin read this learn something then bugger off.
In Russian from Russian archives.http://wio.ru/tank/llrus.htm
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In Russian from Russian archives.http://wio.ru/tank/llrus.htm
Let me translate the words of this site Author for you (when he ask himself, what was the value of the Lend-Lease aid):
"Можно сказать так: "Спасибо за помощь, друзья! Вы очень помогли!
Но Второй фронт в Европе в 1942 (или хотя бы в 1943;
вместо почти бесполезной войны в Африке) был бы намного лучше...""


"We can put it in this way: "Thanks for you help friends! You were very helpful! But second front in Europe in 1942 or 1942, instead of unnecessary campaign in Africa, would have been much more helpful...""
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"We can put it in this way: "Thanks for you help friends! You were very helpful! But second front in Europe in 1942 or 1942, instead of unnecessary campaign in Africa, would have been much more helpful...""
A compliment followed by a smack in the mouth with a wet herring. Used to that one.
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A compliment followed by a smack in the mouth with a wet herring. Used to that one.
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But at least one balanced out the other. Acknowledging the contribution made by lend lease followed by what they actually thought would have done them more good.

It may have done. But there would have been a lot of troops and equipment lost in the artic seas if they had decided to go that way. Far too near occupied territory to be a safe lane. Also, we were in North Africa long before the Eastern Front was opened. Should we have abandoned Egypt, the oil fields and the Suez Cannal? That would have meant allowing the Germans access to valuable oil reserves that they sorely needed. It would have put the supply lines to the Far East later in the war in jepordy as well.

No, the aknowledgement followed by the wish is okay by me. As long as you realize that, in this life you don't always get what you wish for and to be grateful for what you do get.
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"We can put it in this way: "Thanks for you help friends! You were very helpful! But second front in Europe in 1942 or 1942, instead of unnecessary campaign in Africa, would have been much more helpful...""

Entirely fair comment.
Sadly it wasn't possible. (new thread anybody?)
So go the fortunes of war.
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the aknowledgement followed by the wish is okay by me. As long as you realize that, in this life you don't always get what you wish for and to be grateful for what you do get.
but PP sums it up much better than I.

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put the site in my favourites so that I can read it in more detail. However, from what I have seen of it, it is a very interesting and informative site.
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No, the aknowledgement followed by the wish is okay by me. As long as you realize that, in this life you don't always get what you wish for and to be grateful for what you do get.
Very true. And i was smiling as i said it, Plant Pot, so i wasn't being nasty. Just commenting on life.
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Many of sent vehicles (tanks, planes, etc.) were in bad conditions (already saw military service). Lend-Lease vehicles were worse than modern Soviets ones. Goverment delays, smaller numbers.

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For balance negative AND positive.Quote from website.
NEGATIVE
Many of sent vehicles (tanks, planes, etc.) were in bad conditions (already saw military service) Lend-Lease vehicles were worse than modern Soviets ones. Goverment delays, smaller numbers.

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Lend-Lease was very helpful in 1941..42. Great Britain made the 1st steps to help Lend-Lease At the same time USSR also used even more obsolete tanks and planes Western people did theirs best. They even put warm clothes and tinned food into boxes with military equpment, using every free space

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