barbed wire

raf · 03-12-2007, 08:18 PM

how effective was barbed wire, and who had the best. i heard that the Gerrys had much thicker stuff.

wasnt it the canadians who were given the task of mining our beaches and rolling out the barbed wire.

was ours shipped in from the U.S were a farmer introduced it to controll catle.

ive seen a pic of 3 layers of barbed wire outside big ben if anyone has any more then thanks

von Poop · 04-12-2007, 12:30 PM

So far the only worthwhile thing I've pottered onto regarding wire of the period is on lone sentry again:
Lone Sentry: Barbed-Wire Obstacles, German (WWII U.S. Intelligence Bulletin, September 1943)
there's a lot of stuff on peoples war by people charged with laying the stuff, I was hoping these pleasing eccentrics would have more on wartime usage but their interest seems to be mostly agricultural.:
Antique_Barbed_Wire_society
They do have this in their 'History' page though:

Quote:

1941
First use of barbwire against submarines – Japan sunk carloads in their harbors to hinder submarine passage.

Which is not something I'd ever heard of?

Quite enjoying following the trace of the stuff despite finding not much specific, certainly confirms that near every beach from Australia to Britain was covered in wire during the period.

Cheers,
Adam.

spidge · 04-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Much here on the use, the scavenging and the re use.

BARBED WIRE "The Devil's Rope" & Bangalore Torpedoes

And design & preparation:

Barbed wire 2

raf · 04-12-2007, 05:07 PM

ViewImages.com

this may have delayed the gerrys a little !!!!

it seems that the germans constructed better barbed wire defenses than the uk

Gerry Chester · 05-12-2007, 02:55 AM

Since WW I tanks were extensively used to break down barbed wire. Here's a photo of one so engaged.

The only time 25th TB's Churchills came across barbed wire was in Italy - no problems breaking it to let infantry through.

Despite not beinmg a metallurgist I suspect that the quality of the wire, whichever country made it is much the same.

Cheers, Gerry

03-12-2007, 08:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
raf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: wigan Posts: 388	barbed wire how effective was barbed wire, and who had the best. i heard that the Gerrys had much thicker stuff. wasnt it the canadians who were given the task of mining our beaches and rolling out the barbed wire. was ours shipped in from the U.S were a farmer introduced it to controll catle. ive seen a pic of 3 layers of barbed wire outside big ben if anyone has any more then thanks

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spidge Legendary Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8,027	Much here on the use, the scavenging and the re use. BARBED WIRE "The Devil's Rope" & Bangalore Torpedoes And design & preparation: Barbed wire 2 __________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm

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raf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: wigan Posts: 388	ViewImages.com this may have delayed the gerrys a little !!!! it seems that the germans constructed better barbed wire defenses than the uk

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Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Originally Wallasey, Cheshire - Now a world-wide wanderer Posts: 847	Since WW I tanks were extensively used to break down barbed wire. Here's a photo of one so engaged. The only time 25th TB's Churchills came across barbed wire was in Italy - no problems breaking it to let infantry through. Despite not beinmg a metallurgist I suspect that the quality of the wire, whichever country made it is much the same. Cheers, Gerry

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