Nuetral countries

raf · 03-01-2008, 10:44 AM

although all most nuetral countries had some involvement in wwII. which country would have made major diferense if they got fully involved in the war.

thinking about size / position of country to make strategic impact, size of army etc

i think spain...if they had joined the axis then the allies would have lost north africa plus used spain as a base for the u-boats.

if they had joined the allies then it would have secured north africa for the allies.

what do you think ? whats your opinion thanks

Gotthard Heinrici · 03-01-2008, 11:01 AM

It would have been interesting to see the effect of Sweden's involvement in the conflict, whichever side it declared for.

raf · 03-01-2008, 11:08 AM

thanks GH

i had thought about sweeden but dont know much about there armed forces in wwII but there iron was vital to the Germans.

from looking at a map there were some african countries who from a strategic position may have been usefull

Owen · 03-01-2008, 11:46 AM

We've had a few discussions about Neutral countries.

Sweden
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...you-think.html

Portugal
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...tugal-ww2.html

Turkey
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...urkey-ww2.html

von Poop · 03-01-2008, 12:22 PM

I often find WW2 neutrality a little 'suspicious'.
There's a variety of good reasons for being neutral, the most sensible, to me, being a pragmatic appreciation that one's country would be swallowed up immediately and proven unable to defend itself, but then there's that very fine ethical line of dealing with both sides, and profiting thereof, while claiming to have nothing to do with the war. The Swiss & Swedish (eg) never look quite as wholesome to me in the period as their reputation implies, though this is often down to industry rather than politics (if those 2 factors are separable?).

Must have been terrifying trying to exist as Neutral with Hitler as a neighbour though, didn't do the Dutch much good when Adolf's operational interests needed their geography.

Cheers,
Adam.

Christos · 03-01-2008, 01:52 PM

TURKEY......without a doubt......

Simply put, proper Turkish co-operation could have sealed the fate of the Soviet Union, spinning it into an anarchic future from which few slavs would escape unaffected.........Russia descended into complete chaos with it's exit from the Great War....brought on as much by failure to supply the mass of uniformed people....a mistake not repeated in WWII.

03-01-2008, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
raf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: wigan Posts: 388	Nuetral countries although all most nuetral countries had some involvement in wwII. which country would have made major diferense if they got fully involved in the war. thinking about size / position of country to make strategic impact, size of army etc i think spain...if they had joined the axis then the allies would have lost north africa plus used spain as a base for the u-boats. if they had joined the allies then it would have secured north africa for the allies. what do you think ? whats your opinion thanks

03-01-2008, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,699	It would have been interesting to see the effect of Sweden's involvement in the conflict, whichever side it declared for. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino)

03-01-2008, 12:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,090	I often find WW2 neutrality a little 'suspicious'. There's a variety of good reasons for being neutral, the most sensible, to me, being a pragmatic appreciation that one's country would be swallowed up immediately and proven unable to defend itself, but then there's that very fine ethical line of dealing with both sides, and profiting thereof, while claiming to have nothing to do with the war. The Swiss & Swedish (eg) never look quite as wholesome to me in the period as their reputation implies, though this is often down to industry rather than politics (if those 2 factors are separable?). Must have been terrifying trying to exist as Neutral with Hitler as a neighbour though, didn't do the Dutch much good when Adolf's operational interests needed their geography. Cheers, Adam. __________________ It's only the Internet.

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raf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: wigan Posts: 388	thanks GH i had thought about sweeden but dont know much about there armed forces in wwII but there iron was vital to the Germans. from looking at a map there were some african countries who from a strategic position may have been usefull

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Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,062	We've had a few discussions about Neutral countries. Sweden http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...you-think.html Portugal http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...tugal-ww2.html Turkey http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general...urkey-ww2.html

03-01-2008, 01:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Christos Discharged Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 485	TURKEY......without a doubt...... Simply put, proper Turkish co-operation could have sealed the fate of the Soviet Union, spinning it into an anarchic future from which few slavs would escape unaffected.........Russia descended into complete chaos with it's exit from the Great War....brought on as much by failure to supply the mass of uniformed people....a mistake not repeated in WWII.

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