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Old 05-02-2008, 01:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool Wilhelm Gustloff Movie On TV!!

Hey, everyone!

Turns out they are making a TV series in Germany about the final voyage of the Wilhelm Gustloff. It airs on TV on March 2-3, 2008 and currently there's a German website that has video clips and photos from the film. It looks really good! I recognize some of the German actors in the movie from the edited version of "Downfall" that I saw. Is anyone good with German? I cannot understand a majority of the website but it is fun to look around and the 3-d interactive map is a lot of fun! The film looks promising!

Link: ZDF.de - Die Gustloff
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The Wilhelm Gustlov remains as an enduring mystery. Rumours of it's possible cargo continue to be spread. Gauleiter Koch is said to have placed the 'Amber Room' aboard for it's last voyage, and the exact number of persons crammed abaord for the final voyage can only be a matter of conjecture. Don't forget the other large liners to be sunk by the Soviets (The Goya and the Von Stueben).....I have always wondered what became of the Gustlov's sister vessel, the 'Robert Ley'. Adolf Hitler is said to have taken a cruise for the maiden voyage of one of these vessels, chatting with passengers and conducting himself in a manner appropriate to the middle class German worker that this 'Kraft Durch Fruede' liner was built to accomodate and service. The Gustlov was and still is a worthy historical subject in it's own right. It's sinking represented a chapter of Soviet submarine history that is shameful to say the least, and representative of the desperate late war efforts of these submariners to make some kind of worthy contribution to the war effort of their country......easy to torpedo a large vessel with little or no escort..........
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That links sends me to our forum homepage.
So I'll add it again.
ZDF.de - Die Gustloff

Call me cynical but isn't this the Germans doing their "we are victims" thing again?
Just a thought.

Just been looking at the 3-D image & some of the film clips.
The S-13, one minute it's on the surface but when it fires it's submerged or have I watched it incorrectly?
"Die Gustloff" in 3-D

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Old 05-02-2008, 11:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, sorry about the website thing. Not sure why it did that. I did notice the S-13 video goof as well. You think Germany will put the series on DVD with English subtitles?
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It's sinking represented a chapter of Soviet submarine history that is shameful to say the least, and representative of the desperate late war efforts of these submariners to make some kind of worthy contribution to the war effort of their country......easy to torpedo a large vessel with little or no escort..........

Was the Gustloff a legitimate target? Yes
Did it have a Naval escort? Yes
Was it a hospital ship? No

They had every right to sink her.
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Didn't the Wilhelm Gustloff have anti-aircraft guns on it during its last voyage? Plus, there were Kriegsmarine personnel on board and also possibly Nazi Party Leaders. Its a pity all those refugees were put onto an escape boat that was clearly a legitimate target.
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It's sinking represented a chapter of Soviet submarine history that is shameful to say the least, and representative of the desperate late war efforts of these submariners to make some kind of worthy contribution to the war effort of their country......easy to torpedo a large vessel with little or no escort..........
funny but the victims of the Lancastria might say the same about the Luftwaffe
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The producer says it's an anti-war film and acknowledges there were 1,000 soldiers on board . From his interview , it doesn't look to be a simplistic treatment .
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Nothing to do with the sinking but just reading in Through Hell For Hitler by Henry Metelmann that when he was in the Hitler Youth they went to Hamburg docks to welcome The Condor Legion back from Spain.
They had returned on the Wilhelm Gustloff.
Just goes to show the effect of this forum, I'm reading a book recommended on here & read about a ship I'd not heard of until being here.
Thanks chaps.
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Just to mention for anyone interested in the subject, there is an English-language book about the Wilhelm Gustloff ; Christopher Dobson, John Miller & Ronald Payne's 'The Cruellest Night' ( Hodder & Stoughton, London 1979 ).

...although due to its age, it won't include the latest research on the subject.
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