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17-03-2008, 03:32 PM
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| I love WW2 meah!!!   Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Middlesbrough, UK
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 | Bully Beef Anyone know where the term originates? Been having a shufti on google and read that it may be WWI slang, perhaps from the French bouilli, boiled meat, labeling on canned beef. (from the past participle of bouillir, to boil.),Any ideas? |
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23-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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| I thought Bully beef was a term for corned beef.....
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23-03-2008, 03:29 PM
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 | All the Online reference I can see, and the Oxford etymological dictionary, seem to concur with the boiled/boulli origin Marcus. Though precisely how that transferred across from the French may require further explanation. Presumably just a sharing of rations at some point, or the description of a tins contents being in that language, but that still leaves the story a long way from certainty. 
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24-03-2008, 12:32 AM
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| It always amuses me when I think of Fray Bentos being a town in Uraguay. Mmm, corned beef hash what a meal..
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24-03-2008, 08:27 AM
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| Don't forget that they also made Oxo!
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24-03-2008, 09:19 AM
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Sailors used the word for their corned beef and also called it soup and bully. There is an instance in a English cook book of 1845 which uses the word boullion for beef however this would usually refer to Oxo etc. The English understanding and spelling of the French word, would be Bully as most uses of it tended to be beef until the late 1800's.
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