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Old 08-04-2008, 12:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I dunno why, but i find WW1 more attractive to read and study that WW2 ( does not mind i find it interest either )

Maybe due to the fact that WW2 depended on WW1, but the latter would have ocurred without the former.
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hartmann's record is 100% confirmed, down to the dates and types of aircraft. The same goes for Gerhard Barkhorn who had 301 victories.
Was just reading this morning about the 'No.2' Barkhorn in a little lightweight Osprey book on Oakleaves recipients. Looked like a cheerful type, and a remarkable career in the postwar BundesLuftwaffe (?) rising to Generalleutnant after training on more modern jets with the RAF.
Aces of the Luftwaffe - Gerhard Barkhorn
Anybody got any pictures of him wearing the decoration with his 'NATO' uniform? That kind of thing fascinates me.

Aha, found one (though I can't make out Oakleaves?):
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How's that for an 'interesting' combination of Uniform & decorations on a Cold War high ranker.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thank you gents, I am going to get to all the suggested readings. I read a book about SA fighter pilots that had not even downed more than three enemy throughout the war and for a pilot to slot such an amount of kills must be skill and oppertunaty in abundance. It also saddens my heart to think there was men in those aircraft. But then war is not pretty. Everybody had a job to do.

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leader to wing man,is that a kill.yes sir.lee
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leader to wing man,is that a kill.yes sir.lee
You might elaborate on your quote, Lee. Are you doubting the Allied method of establishing kills then?
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Man this post went out of subject badly. No one seems interested in WW1 pilots!!!
Start a thread in Pre War and call it Best WW1 Pilots!
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I think you will find as good as the german pilots are they also counted kills when straffing airfields unlike the allies......

Please do find me wrong theres nothing I would like more as I am in total awe of any off these fine pilots
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I think you will find as good as the german pilots are they also counted kills when straffing airfields unlike the allies......

Please do find me wrong theres nothing I would like more as I am in total awe of any off these fine pilots
I would also add that victories appeared to come easy against Germany's enemies in the East
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