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![]() | US field rations(C) issued to troops in the field Army Field Rations The C Ration![]() The American infantry soldier began WWII with the "combat" meal known officially as Field Ration, Type C. There were three individually boxed meals for breakfast, dinner (i.e., lunch), and supper. Soldiers quickly tired of these meat-and-hash meals because they were also served in the central mess tents when soldiers rotated off the front lines and yearned for more variety. ![]() The first version of the C rations offered a simple menu consisting of: Package of Biscuits In early 1944 specifications for the C rats increased variety by alternating combinations of the "B," or bread, units, and the "M," or meat, units. An accessory pack included nine "good commercial-quality" cigarettes, water-purification tablets, matches, toilet paper, chewing gum, and an opener for the meat cans. A soldier's daily ration was three cans of B units, three cans of M units, and one accessory pack.Package of Graham Crackers Package of Sugar Tablets Meat Can of Ham (Breakfast), Chicken (Dinner), Turkey (Supper) Fruit Bar (Breakfast), Caramels (Dinner), Chocolate Bar (Supper) Powdered Coffee (Breakfast), Bouillon (Dinner), Lemon (Supper) Piece Chewing Gum 4-Pack Cigarettes Package of Toilet Tissue Wooden Spoon Matches M unit varieties Meat and beans Meat and vegetable stew Meat and spaghetti Ham, egg, and potato Meat and noodles Pork and rice Franks and beans Pork and beans Ham and lima beans Chicken and vegetables B unit components Biscuits Compressed and premixed cereal Candy-coated peanuts or raisins Powdered coffee Sugar Powdered lemon or orange juice Cocoa powder Hard candies Jam Caramels |
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![]() | WW2 K rations Army Field Rations The K Ration ![]() Breakfast Unit Canned meat product Biscuits Compressed cereal bar Powdered coffee Fruit bar Chewing gum Sugar tablets Four cigarettes Water-purification tablets Can opener Wooden spoon Canned cheese product Biscuits A candy bar Chewing gum Powdered beverage Granulated sugar Salt tablets Cigarettes Matches Can opener Wooden spoon Canned meat product Biscuits Bouillon powder Candy Chewing gum Powdered coffee Granulated sugar Cigarettes Can opener Toilet paper Wooden spoon ![]() The canned meat and cheese products were individually boxed in 3" x 2 3/4" x 1 7/17 cardboard containers, while the other items were contained in a plastic bag that, according to instructions on the carton, could be reused for keeping other items such as cigarettes, matches, letters, and photos waterproof if the bag was carefully opened. K Ration Packaging There were at least two distinct types of wooden K ration containers. Wooden boxes marked "KS" were early war types (as Hudson & Allen's product states), and those marked "K" came later. Gerald Peterson says he has seen both KS and K boxes dated 1944, but the KS crate had the older brown individual meal boxes in it, while the box marked K had the full color Morale K Ration boxes in it.According to C.Q.D. No. 28H, dated August 31, 1945 (superseding an October 31, 1944 directive), twelve K rations were packed on end in a snug-fitting corrugated fiberboard container. "The arrangement of the cartons shall be 12 in length (major panels facing), 3 in width, and 1 in depth. One row of 12 cartons shall be for breakfast, one row for dinner and one row for supper." The fiberboard containers were either placed into wooden boxes directly, or sealed in a waterproof triple-ply "bag" of kraft paper or kraft paper, metal foil, and cellophane, before being packed in the box. |
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![]() | We were still eating WW2-produced C rations in the US Army through the mid-1970s. Personally, I preferred them to the later MREs, especially the canned fruits. MREs are the current US field ration, and have gotten much better over the years, though they are still referred to as "Meals refused by Ethiopians" or "Meals Rodents Evade". Doc |
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![]() | My opinion????? Jeffl; I am not a hard person to please. As the war wore on we started getting more varieties.. Chef Boyarde made sphagetti and meat balls. (GOOD) Beans WITH hot dogs (GOOD). There were many more that I forgot. My favorite was the K ration with a block of cheddar cheese and crackers. OH YES.( CORNED BEEF HASH) I loved it. In the march of the plains of Cologne, it was discovered that the German civilians stored food in cellars. Loaves of pumpernickle were piled up like cord wood. Fruit was preserved in jars,and fresh eggs were plentiful. To pillage was scorned apon by the upper eschelons. We considered it as the spoils of war. OH I ALMOST FOROT. Then there was the excellent German wine During the lull in fighting. A kitchen was set up and we were giving HOT meals. |
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![]() | Another goodie from WW2 Spam again It was the grub GIs loved to grumble about—not because it wasn't tasty, but because it was always there, sometimes three times a day. by Bruce Heydt The 20th-century Chinese writer Lin Yutang once defined patriotism as the memory of what we ate as children. I grew up in the years immediately following World War II, and some of my most vivid memories are set in my family’s kitchen. I can still see the green tiled floor and the chrome-and-Formica dinner table. I remember the food I ate there. In particular, I recall the smells and the tastes of two meals that my mother served with well-planned regularity. The first was a dish served mainly for breakfasts, which my father, an Eighth Army Air Force vet, tactfully called “poop on a shingle.” (I think I must have been a teenager before I heard the uncensored military slang for creamed chipped beef on toast.) The second one often made its unmistakably rectangular appearance at dinner: in a word, Spam.Say that word to a WWII veteran, and you’re in for a true gut reaction. My own memories of Spam and the frequency with which it appeared on my plate are only a faint shadow of what the so-called “miracle meat” brings to mind for those who ate it seemingly three times a day for the length of their military service. For many, it must have seemed as though there were no food other than this ubiquitous, gelatinous, pink, canned concoction. In fact, the Hormel company had celebrated Spam’s birth not long before the war, in the mid-1930s. It was developed not in response to a prophetic vision of the need for a non-perishable, easily transported military ration—nor, as some may still think, as a practical joke played by someone in the US War Department—but in response to the vision of one man, Jay Hormel. President of the meat packing company that shared his family name, Hormel had already introduced canned ham to the American consumer. Now, looking for a way to turn previously discarded pork shoulder meat into a marketable product, he hit upon the idea for an inexpensive canned luncheon treat that fit the budget of Depression-era housewives and had a much longer shelf life than other meats. Hormel’s canned pork shoulder debuted in 1937 as Hormel Spiced Ham, but soon reemerged as “Spam” after actor Kenneth Daigneau, brother of a Hormel vice president, won the $100 prize in a contest to rename the product. So the story goes. Some sources say the name is a merging of “Spiced” and “Ham”; others stand by a derivation from “Shoulder of Pork and Ham.” Strange as it would have seemed to most WWII servicemen, Spam spawned many imitations in the years before the war. Though it would soon become the butt of jokes and unsettling rumors about its ingredients, Spam actually compared favorably to most of these knock-offs. In the light-hearted book Spam: A Biography, Carolyn Wyman (herself the child of a Spam-fed WWII serviceman), writes that “although the pork shoulder in Hormel’s luncheon loaves was filet mignon compared to the lips, tongue, and yes, even pig snouts competitors put in the ones they came out with following Hormel’s success, consumers couldn’t tell the difference by their appearance.” When America entered the war in 1941 and began shipping fighting men overseas, military officials bought large quantities of Spam for the same reason housewives bought it—it was cheap, easily transportable, had a long shelf life—and yes, it was fairly nutritious. But Spam was not the only canned meat to go to war. According to Wyman, the army initially bought 10 different varieties of canned meat to feed the troops. That number grew to 60 by the war’s end. These products found their way into K and B rations (field and communal rations, respectively), where Hormel’s pork shoulder ended up cheek-to-jowl with its competitors’ canned pig ears, noses, and tongues. Soon, the troops were eating these dubious delicacies as often as three times a day. To fed-up servicemen, it was all Spam. |
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![]() | Franek, yes, and it is still served in messhalls today, however, the chipped beef has generally been replaced by hamburger beef. I think the old chipped beef was better, but it's still a pretty good breakfast. You still hear it referred to as SOS. Doc |
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Some good reading here ![]() I remember writing a small piece about WW2 army grub on the BBC People's War website: BBC - WW2 People's War - What did you eat in the War, Daddy? (If you scan down after the article you will also see a comment from Gerry Chester about Compo Rations)
__________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942Served as a Wireless-Op with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps. Served as a Loader-Op with the 4th QOH from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) Finished up as Tech Cpl for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947 |
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