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Inspired me to scan these pictures of mobile churches from the defunct Wheels & tracks magazine: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() First Allied Jewish service on German soil: ![]() Holy Jeeps: ![]() ![]() And some WW1 stuff, just because they're nice shots: ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | The four chaplains
Another tale of Courage:- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This account was recited at a medal ceremony for the families;- "Chaos ensued – fire, smoke, and the screaming of the wounded. Fear filled the air. Some men panicked and jumped into the waters without life jackets; others were frozen in fear and refused to leave the sinking vessel. Taking on water rapidly, the ship began listing to starboard. Overcrowded lifeboats capsized, and rafts drifted away before anyone could reach them. "In the midst of the confusion and terror, four chaplains – Protestant Ministers George Lansing Fox and Clark Poling, a Catholic Priest, Father John Washington, and Rabbi Alex Goode – moved about the ship, exuding composure while calming frightened men, directing bewildered soldiers to lifeboats, and distributing life jackets with calm precision. Soon, the supply of jackets was exhausted, yet four young soldiers, afraid and without life vests, stood waiting. "Without hesitation, the chaplains removed their own life jackets and gave them to the young soldiers. Then, according to one survivor, the four chaplains joined some of the other men trapped onboard for prayers that “sounded like a babble of English, Hebrew and Latin.” "These four men of faith had given away their only means of saving themselves in order to save others. Men rowing away from the sinking ship in lifeboats saw the chaplains clinging to each other on the slanting deck. Their arms were linked together and their heads were bowed as they prayed to the one God whom each of them loved and served. "The Dorchester sank beneath the icy waters of the North Atlantic, carrying with it the four chaplains and some 675 servicemen ![]() Chaplains Memorial Screen ![]() George L. Fox was born March 15, 1900 in Lewistown, Pennsylvania. In addition to George, he had a sister Gertrude and brothers Bert, Leo and John. When George was just 17, he left school, and with strong determination, convinced the military authorities he was 18 and joined the ambulance corps in 1917, shortly after the United States entered World War I. George was placed in the ambulance corps and shipped to Camp Newton D. Baker in Texas. On December 3, 1917 George embarked from Camp Merritt, New Jersey, and boarded the US Huron enroute to France. As a medical corps assistant, he was highly decorated for bravery and was awarded the Silver Star, Purple Heart and the French Croix de Guerre. Upon his discharge, he returned home to Altoona, completed his last year in high school, and went to work for the Guarantee Trust Company. In 1923 he entered Moody Institute in Illinois, where he married at Winona Lake, Indiana. After he withdrew from Moody, he became an itinerant preacher in the Methodist faith. A son, Wyatt Ray, was born on November 11, 1924. After several successful years, George held a student pastorate in Downs, Illinois. He entered Illinois Wesleyan University in Bloomington in 1929 and graduated with an A.B. degree in 1931. Again as a student pastorate in Rye, New Hampshire, he entered the Boston University School of Theology. George was ordained a Methodist minister on June 10, 1934 and graduated with a S.T.B. degree. He was appointed pastor in Waits River, Vermont. Their second child, Mary Elizabeth, was born shortly thereafter. In 1936, he accepted a pastorate in Union Village, Vermont. His next calling was in Gilman, Vermont where he joined the Walter G. Moore American Legion Post. He was later appointed state chaplain and historian for the Legion. In mid 1942, George decided to join the Army Chaplain Service and was appointed July 24, 1942. He went on active duty August 8, 1942, the same day his son Wyatt enlisted in the Marine Corps. He was assigned to the Chaplains school at Harvard and then reported to the 411th Coast Artillery Battalion at Camp Davis. He was then reunited with Chaplains Goode, Poling and Washington at Camp Myles Standish in Taunton, Massachusetts and their fateful trip on the USAT DORCHESTER. Chaplain Fox was posthumously awarded the Purple Heart and Distinguished Service Cross. ![]() He entered the University of Cincinnati and graduated in 1934 with an A.B. degree...and then on to Hebrew Union College with a B.H. degree in 1937. He later received his Ph.D. from John Hopkins University in 1940. Alex married his childhood sweetheart, Theresa Flax, daughter of Nathan and Rose Flax. Theresa was a niece of singer and motion picture star, Al Jolson. They were married on October 7, 1935. As an ordained Rabbi, his first assignment was a synagogue in Marion, Indiana in 1936. On July 16, 1937 he was transferred to the Beth Israel synagogue in York, Pennsylvania until mid 1942. Alex and Theresa had a daughter, Rosalie, who was born in 1939. In January 1941 he applied as a chaplain with the U.S. Navy but was not accepted at that time. Right after Pearl Harbor, he tried again, this time with the Army, and received an appointment on July 21, 1942. Chaplain Goode went on active duty on August 9, 1942 and was selected for the Chaplains School at Harvard. He had courses in map reading, first aid, law, and chemical warfare. Chaplain Goode was then assigned to the 333rd Airbase Squadron in Goldsboro, North Carolina. In October 1942, he was transferred to Camp Myles Standish in Taunton, Massachusetts and Alex was reunited with Chaplains Fox, Poling and Washington, who were classmates at Harvard. It was January 1943 when he boarded the USAT DORCHESTER in Boston and embarkation to Greenland. Chaplain Goode was killed in action on February 3, 1943 in the icy waters of the North Atlantic when the DORCHESTER was sunk by a German U-boat. Chaplain Goode was posthumously awarded the Purple Heart and Distinguished Service Cross. ![]() Clark V. Poling was born August 7, 1910 in Columbus, Ohio. He was the son of Susie Jane Vandersall of East Liberty, Ohio and Daniel A. Poling of Portland, Oregon. In addition to Clark, the other children were Daniel, Mary and Elizabeth. Clark attended Whitney Public School in Auburndale, Massachusetts where his teachers remembered his maturity and delicate side of his nature. The Auburndale days came to an end when his mother died in 1918. She is buried at Greenlawn Cemetery, Uniontown, Ohio. Clark's father was an Evangelical Minister and in 1936 was rebaptized as a Baptist minister. Reverend Daniel Poling was remarried on August 11, 1919 to Lillian Diebold Heingartner of Canton, Ohio. Clark attended Oakwood, a Quaker high school in Poughkeepsie, New York, and was a good student and an excellent football halfback. Clark was a council member and president of the student body. In 1929 he enrolled at Hope College in Holland, Michigan and spent his last two years at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, graduating in 1933 with an A.B. degree. Clark entered Yale University's Divinity School in New Haven, Connecticut and graduated with his B.D. degree in 1936. He was ordained in the Reformed Church in America and his first assignment was the First Church of Christ, New London, Connecticut. Shortly thereafter, he accepted the assignment of Pastor of the First Reformed Church in Schenectady, New York. Clark was married to Betty Jung of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and the next year, Clark, Jr. (Corky) was born. With our country now at war with Japan, Germany and Italy, he decided to be a chaplain. Talking with his father, Dr. Daniel A. Poling, who was a chaplain in World War I, he was told that chaplains in that conflict sustained the highest mortality rate of all military personnel. Without hesitation, he was appointed on June 10, 1942 as a chaplain with the 131st Quartermaster Truck Regiment and reported to Camp Shelby, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, effective June 25, 1942. Later he attended Chaplains School at Harvard with Chaplains Fox, Goode and Washington after his transfer to Camp Myles Standish in Taunton, Massachusetts. Shortly after the USAT DORCHESTER was sunk February 3, 1943, his wife, Betty, gave birth to a daughter, Susan Elizabeth, on April 20. Chaplain Poling was posthumously awarded the Purple Heart and Distinguished Service Cross. ![]() John entered Seton Hall in South Orange, New Jersey to complete his high school and college courses in preparation for the priesthood. He graduated in 1931 with an A.B. degree. He entered Immaculate Conception Seminary in Darlington, New Jersey and received his minor orders on May 26, 1933. John excelled in the seminary, was a sub deacon at all the solemn masses, and later became a deacon on December 25, 1934. John was elected prefect of his class and was ordained a priest on June 15, 1935. Father Washington's first parish was at St. Genevieve's in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and then he served at St. Venantius for a year. In 1938 he was assigned to St. Stephen's in Arlington, New Jersey. Shortly after the Pearl Harbor attack of December 7, 1941, he received his appointment as a chaplain in the United States Army. He went on active duty May 9, 1942 and was named Chief of the Chaplains Reserve Pool, Ft. Benjamin Harrison, Indiana. In June 1942, he was assigned to the 76th Infantry Division in Ft. George Meade, Maryland. In November 1942, he reported to Camp Myles Standish in Taunton, Massachusetts and met Chaplains Fox, Goode and Poling at Chaplains School at Harvard. Father Washington boarded the USAT DORCHESTER at the Embarkation Camp at Boston Harbor in January 1943 enroute to Greenland. Chaplain Washington was killed in action on February 3, 1943, when the DORCHESTER was sunk by a German U-boat. Chaplain Washington was posthumously awarded the Purple Heart and Distinguished Service Cross. End note;-Petty Officer John J. Mahoney, tried to re-enter the ship but was stopped by Rabbi Goode. Mahoney, , explained he had forgotten his gloves. "Never mind ," smiled Goode . "I have two pairs." The rabbi then gave the petty officer his own gloves. Afterwards, Mahoney realized that Rabbi Goode was not carrying two pairs of gloves, and the rabbi had already decided he was not to leave the Dorchester. Remarkable story well known I am told however this is the first time I`ve come across it. Regards Verrieres A posthumous Special Medal for Heroism, never before given and never to be given again, was authorized by Congress and awarded by the President January 18, 1961. Congress wished to confer the Medal of Honor but was blocked by the stringent requirements which required heroism performed under fire. The special medal was intended to have the same weight and importance as the Medal of Honor |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Collectables Chaplain insignia/Head Dress/Uniform/Militaria
Heres a look at what some of the Allied and German Chaplains were wearing during WW2. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Various quality and condition shown in this range of Caps including a Naval Chaplain and one which was termed in a Militaria catalogue as a `Field Bishops Cap?` Canadian Shoulder Title Chaplain Corps![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cap Badges and Breast Badges Allied Padres ![]() Chaplain Robe Badge Recently seen a death Card being sold on E-Bay to a Catholic Priest serving with the German Army ![]() Description read;- Medical Combat Gottfried Ortnetsmüller (INFANTRY REGT.) born on March 01, 1914 priest since July 02, 1939 Soldier since April 1940 died for fatherland in a forest battle in the cauldron of Kiev (Ukraine) on Sep.26, 1941 - Age 28 Some pretty interesting stuff Regards Verrieres |
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![]() | Monsignor John Coghlan, Vicar-General to the Army, C.B.E. Monsignor John Coghlan, Vicar-General to the Army, was made a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire for his gallantry during the Battle of Flanders in 1940. Quote:
30 August 1940 http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34936/supplements/5325 11 May 1948 http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/38288/supplements/2921 Listed: The Times, Wednesday, Dec 01, 1943 Quote:
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![]() | Father Thomas Duggan, M.C., attchd D.L.I. Fr. Thomas Duggan was awarded the Military Cross in 1940. The immediate award was made in France by Lord Gort, Commander-in-Chief. Quote:
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![]() | Reverend Richard Newcombe Craig, M.C., Tyneside Scottish Black Watch Rev. Richard Newcombe Craig was awarded the Military Cross in 1940. This was the third clerical award of this war. Quote:
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![]() | Reverend Worral Reginald Leadbeater, M.C., 6 Grenadier Guards The Reverend Worral Reginald Leadbeater, Chaplain to the Forces, Fourth Class, Royal Army Chaplain’s Department, was awarded the Military Cross. Quote:
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[quote=dbf;196956]The Reverend Worral Reginald Leadbeater, Chaplain to the Forces, Fourth Class, Royal Army Chaplain’s Department, was awarded the Military Cross. His medals were sold in 2001 they consisted of Second World War M.C. Group of Six to Chaplain to the Forces 4th Class the Rev. W.R. Leadbeater, Royal Army Chaplains Department, Attached 6th (Motor) Battalion, Grenadier Guards, Military Cross, G.VI.R., the reverse officially dated '1943'; 1939-45 Star; Africa Star, with '8th Army' clasp; Defence and War Medals; General Service 1918-62, two clasps, Palestine 1945-48, Malaya (The Rev., M.C., C.F. 4, R.A. Ch. D.), additional information;- The Rev. Worral Reginald Leadbeater, M.C., completed his education at Trinity College, Dublin prior to entering the Priesthood in 1936 Appointed Curate of St. John's in Sligo, he remained there until 1940 when he joined the Royal Army Chaplains Department as a Chaplain to the Forces 4th Class. Confirmedin the latter rank in January 1943, and following active service in North Africa, attached to the Grenadier Guards, he appears to have remained in the R.A.C.D. until 1952 . Source Spink and Sons Medal Auction Catalogue (2001 edition sorry don`t know which quarter) Verrieres |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Padre Duggan 8DLI
Heres a bit of an insight into the man During the actions around Carvin -Lens a French Major was directing a platoon of 8DLI into positions near Carvin when he and the platoon saw a vehicle in no mans land , just ahead of the German positions, where the vehicle ran into a ditch .Shortly afterwards two Khaki clad figures emerged they were Padre Duggan and his batman Pte Deveney.The French major was not impressed that the vehicle had been out in no mans land however Padre Duggan,much to the DLI`s amusement lectured the French Major in rudimentary French,and delivered in his best Irish manner regarding his duty as a British officer and the use of Army vehicles under his command! which left the French Major storming off and muttering to himself that all English soldiers were mad! Duggan set about setting up an un-official Regimental Aid post in the main street which he manned all day with no regard for his personal safety despite accurate German shelling in the immediate area On May 31st elements of 8DLI, (DLI and some stragglers from 11DLI set up a joint regimental aid post.German shelling was heavy and accurate and casualties mounted steadily throughout the shelling Padre Duggan and Cpl H .Fletcher made repeated journeys carrying the wounded into the cellars of the nearby chateau the Padres humour,coolness and courage did wonders for the morale of the Durhams as he carried on regardless despite the ferocity of the German bombardment..Duggan received a MC Cpl Fletcher a mention in dispatches.Father Duggan died in Peru on the 17/12/1961 . More of his post war record can be foun here http://www.corkandross.org/priests.jsp?priestID=538 Verrieres |
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Did the German Military have the equivalent of a padre and a actual Corps ? I noticed the caps above but was this just making used of a priest that wanted to join the military or was there a actual unit? Regards Andy
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