Biggest Mistake of WWII

The comment on the Italians invading was a summary not a detailed attack because it was a secondary point. The Italians invaded Somaliland, and got spanked. Hitler sends Rommel and the boys, and drove the Brits all the way to Tobruk. Churchill re-supplied and reorganized them into Eighth army who proceeded to drive the Germans back to Libya.(I summarized because I thought I was quoting common knowledge simply to set up a point). I stated the facts on Greece wrong, I was thinking at the same time (chronological relationship, rather than geographical relationship. Greece was not in the North Africa campaign, thanks for the correction.

My point was that it tied up Germans and prevented Hitler from "quickly" conquering Russia. It was the Russian winter and it alone that kept Germany from easily conquering Russia, NOT the prowess of the Russians. With good weather, blitzkrieg would have been every bit as quick as it was in France. That alone was the point.

The rest was to explain what I mean by “delaying” Hitler’s assault. If I had not qualified it, people would have jumped all over it saying “Hitler was never delayed!” so I thought I would disarm that argument preemptively. Excuse me from getting sloppy. It’s a bad habit of mine.

Besides it gives so many such satisfaction to be able to jump all over something I post. I feel like I perform a service here!

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(jimbotosome @ Oct 6 2005, 06:42 AM) [post=39774]The comment on the Italians invading was a summary not a detailed attack because it was a secondary point. The Italians invaded Somaliland, and got spanked. Hitler sends Rommel and the boys, and drove the Brits all the way to Tobruk. Churchill re-supplied and reorganized them into Eighth army who proceeded to drive the Germans back to Libya.(I summarized because I thought I was quoting common knowledge simply to set up a point). I stated the facts on Greece wrong, I was thinking at the same time (chronological relationship, rather than geographical relationship. Greece was not in the North Africa campaign, thanks for the correction.

My point was that it tied up Germans and prevented Hitler from "quickly" conquering Russia. It was the Russian winter and it alone that kept Germany from easily conquering Russia, NOT the prowess of the Russians. With good weather, blitzkrieg would have been every bit as quick as it was in France. That alone was the point.

The rest was to explain what I mean by “delaying” Hitler’s assault. If I had not qualified it, people would have jumped all over it saying “Hitler was never delayed!” so I thought I would disarm that argument preemptively. Excuse me from getting sloppy. It’s a bad habit of mine.

Besides it gives so many such satisfaction to be able to jump all over something I post. I feel like I perform a service here!
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(jimbotosome @ Oct 6 2005, 06:42 AM) [post=39774]

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I hope that was tongue in cheek, I don't wear size 15's

We all get spinal footprints from time to time

[Saruman]

i just register in your forums and i was surfing/reading your threads.

iam very sad to see that you didn't write nothing about this little country that was fighting Germans most of all "219" days and kill so many Germans without real weapons.

Don't you think that Greece do much for ww2 ?

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(Alebyzakis Vaggelis @ Oct 31 2005, 06:45 PM) [post=40820]i just register in your forums and i was surfing/reading your threads.

iam very sad to see that you didn't write nothing about this little country that was fighting Germans most of all "219" days and kill so many Germans without real weapons.

Don't you think that Greece do much for ww2 ?
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Kalos orisate Alebyzakis Vaggelis, Ti kaneis?

There are many references to Greece on the forum however they are of a general nature. We look forward to you relating interesting facts to inform us.

Geia sou

[adamcotton]

Morse, I love it!

The original question, I believe, related to the biggest blunders of WW2.....

How about the British defeat in Singapore/Maylaya? Assigning only inadequate Brewster Buffaloes for air defence and having all big guns on the Malay Peninsula pointing out to sea, where the likely threat was expected to come from? Or, again going back further in time, British pilots of the embryonic Fleet Air Arm teaching the Japanese all they knew about carrier aviation in the aftermath of WW1.......(Japan and Britain being allies in WW1). Now there's an interesting twist....

[morse1001]

</div><div class='quotemain'>British pilots of the embryonic Fleet Air Arm teaching the Japanese all they knew about carrier aviation in the aftermath of WW1.......(Japan and Britain being allies in WW1). [/b]

Remember that it was the attack on Taranto that sparked the attack on Pearl Harbour.. Also, during the Suez crisis, FAA piolots were azttacking airfields that they had left only months before [img]images/smilies/default/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/default/tongue.gif[/img]

[JeremyScott]

I think invading Crete was a big mistake. The Germans would have been better off taking Malta. That way, they could have had cut off the Med from the British back in 40 or 41. I know the British would have had control of the island and there would have been numerous troops on it. But it would eventually starve itself out.

[Saruman]

British Helped Greeks only in Crete Cause if German had taked Crete they could easily attack to the main Military Base of British in Egypt

At the Main Greece Battles, British did't do many things.They was battles that only 1 or 2 British go.

I have some texts that Greeks have write that when the battle was very aggresive British stopped fighting to Drink they Tea Oo

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(Alebyzakis Vaggelis @ Nov 3 2005, 07:26 PM) [post=41034]British Helped Greeks only in Crete Cause if German had taked Crete they could easily attack to the main Military Base of British in Egypt

At the Main Greece Battles, British did't do many things.They was battles that only 1 or 2 British go.

I have some texts that Greeks have write that when the battle was very aggresive British stopped fighting to Drink they Tea Oo
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What ever you have been reading or have been told about the Greek campaign is terribly wrong and I have a link below you should read before posting hearsay and being disparaging of those allied soldiers, sailors and airmen who died for Greece and Crete.

My fathers division, the 6th Australian division, (at that time 33% of the total Australian Army) fought in Greece and then Crete and had 39% of their division either killed, wounded or captured. There were also New Zealanders and British that were too busy fighting for Greece to drink tea as you put it.

Please in future, do not post unsupported information that denigrates the memory of brave fighting men.

http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/greatrisk/

Sas efharisto poli

[Saruman]

I didn't say that British military didn't fought and died with Greek Mens but we should say that UK sent troops not to keep Greece safe but their bases at Egypt.

Yes they fought but they fought well at Crete Battle

the British that go at Main Greece(Macendonia e.t.c) was a small troops just to say British come

My GrandFather had told me many historical things about British and Cretans
British helped too much at Crete. I can't say something different their help here offer much. Also don't forgot that when Cretans Ask for weapons from British bases they Didn't have so think unprapered help was.

Most Cretan Men/Child/Woman fight with agricultural tools.