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Old 21-04-2006, 03:06 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Oirish, like it?
Never tried it my little Colleen!
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 21-04-2006, 03:08 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Jaysus Mossie, Dats de best Oirish Accint I ever Herd!!!! Your diktion is reeellly brillint!
If I ever get the chance to get to Ireland you will have to speak English or Aussie my friend.
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 21-04-2006, 03:17 PM   #213 (permalink)
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If I ever get the chance to get to Ireland you will have to speak English or Aussie my friend.
When one leaves the colonies to travel to the Emerald Isle one will be struck by the ease with which the Natives can switch between the Mother Country's Tongue, Oirish and fluent Drunkenese!!!!
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Old 21-04-2006, 03:19 PM   #214 (permalink)
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the Occurance of WWII goes back much farther than the 1930's. After the first war Wilson proposed his 14 points plan to stop war from occuring in the world, yet congress rejected his plan, only using his recomendation for a league of nations. The United states refused to be in the league of nations because they didn't want to get rapped up in Europe's affairs. The league also didn't have it's own army, thereby inhibiting what actions the league could take when a country stepped out of line. So when hitler attacked Munich and later invaded Poland The league of nations was powerless to act against him, believing Hitler's reich to much more powerful than it was at the time.
While this was a reason why it is not a mistake during WW2. This "train" of thought goes back to the railway carriage after WW1.

This could be a thread in its own right (What were the factors that contributed to the start of WW2?) which has been discussed on previous occasions.
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 21-04-2006, 03:22 PM   #215 (permalink)
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When one leaves the colonies to travel to the Emerald Isle one will be struck by the ease with which the Natives can switch between the Mother Country's Tongue, Oirish and fluent Drunkenese!!!!
Who's been letting the cat out of the bag now?
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 21-04-2006, 03:31 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Old 13-10-2006, 06:01 PM   #217 (permalink)
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im not sure what you can say is the biggest mistake, but i think there are a couple of points need to be mentioned about the early part of the war.
Turning on russia, i believe, cannot possibly be described as a 'mistake' by hitler because really that was what the war was for...taking out western europe was merely paving the way for the real objective...russia.
now, i think this point is critical. Germany never had a chance of militarily defeating britain in 1940. All she could hope for was the british withdrawing from hostilities. The real battle of britian was the battle of the atlantic.
No serious historian would claim that Hitler ever intended to aggressively invade the united kingdom.
Even had the RAF been all but destroyed in 1940, an invasion of britain would have been suicidal. Hitler knew this very well.
Interestingly, during the 1970s there was a war game enacted by british forces tactical commanders, using actual german commanders of the time following the plans of operation sealion.
the result was the annihilation of 90,000 german troops.
Sealion and the battle of britain were an attempt to get britain to withdraw from the war...hitler didnt at any time consider britain a miliary objective.
By the time that britain became strategically important, the war was already lost...the only thing that remained open to question was how much territory would be taken by the soviets.

in my view, what lost the war for germany was a combination of many things...but the one thing that i feel lost them the chance of ever actually winning the war was stalingrad. Hitler built up an obsession with it, employing a take it at all cost stance....they could have withdrawn in 42, gone around it and taken the baltic oilfields. Moscow then most suredly would have fallen in 43 with the help of the 6th army.

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Old 17-10-2006, 11:21 PM   #218 (permalink)
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i can't remember if i have posted or not. I shall assume not so here goes.

Hitler's biggest mistakes:
Bringing USA into the War
Attacking Russia
Stopping bombing the RAF bases
The Holocaust (as he could have had something like 4-6 million extra soldiers)

I might post some allied mistakes at a later date.
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Well Hitler made many mistakes because of his desire for attacks and offencive.He made a terrible mistake attacking the Russians they could be a great ally Stalin didnt hate Hitler befor the war.The other mistake that Hitler make is that he take control of the U-boats.
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One of the reasons Hitler attacked Russia is, i think, for the oil fields. He could easily have gone through Turkey and surly would have got oil, but with less casualties
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