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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Here is a breakdown of the German Order of Battle during the Battle for Berlin as compiled by Tony Le Tissier in his book "Race for the Reichstag": OKW RESERVE (later allocated to the LVI Panzer Corps, 9th Army) 18th Panzergrenadier Division (Maj Gen Josef Rauch) 30th & 51st Panzergrenadier Regts 118th Panzer Regt (part) 18th Artillery Regt ARMY GROUP ‘VISTULA’ (Col Gen Gotthard Heinrici) III SS ‘Germanic’ Panzer Corps (SS Lt Gen Felix Steiner) (divisions later allocated to the 9th Army) 11th SS ‘Nordland’ Panzergrenadier Division (SS Maj Gen Jurgen Ziegler / SS Maj Gen Dr Gustav Krukenburg) 23rd ‘Norge’ Panzergrenadier Regt 24th ‘Danmark’ Panzergrenadier Regt 11th SS ‘Hermann von Salza’ Panzer Btn 503rd SS Heavy Tank Btn 11th SS ‘Nordland’ Armoured Reconnaissance Btn 23rd SS ‘Nederland’ Panzergrenadier Division (SS Maj Gen Wagner) (divisions later allocated to the 3rd Panzer Army) 27th SS ‘Langemarck’ Grenadier Division 28th SS ‘Wallonien’ Grenadier Division 3rd Panzer Army (Gen Hasso von Manteuffel) ‘Swinemunde’ Corps (Lt Gen Ansat) 402nd & 2nd Naval Divisions XXXII Corps (Lt Gen Schack) ‘Voigt’ & 281st Infantry Divisions 549th Volksgrenadier Division Stettin Garrison ‘Oder’ Corps (SS Lt Gen von dem Bach / Gen Hörnlein) 610th & ‘Klossek’ Infantry Divisions XXXXVI Panzer Corps (Gen Martin Gareis) 547th Volksgrenadier Division 1st Naval Division 9th Army (Gen Theodor Busse) 156th Infantry Division 541st Volksgrenadier Division 404th Volks Artillery Corps 406th Volks Artillery Corps 408th Volks Artillery Corps CI Corps (Gen Wilhelm Berlin / Lt Gen Friedrich Sixt) 5th Light Infantry Division 606th Infantry Division 309th ‘Berlin’ Infantry Division 25th Panzergrenadier Division 111th SPG Training Bde ‘1001 Nights’ Combat Group LVI Panzer Corps (Gen Helmuth Weidling) 9th Fallschirmjäger Division (Gen Bruno Braüer / Col Harry Herrmann) 25th, 26th & 27th Fallschirmjäger Regts 9th Fallschirmjäger Artillery Regt 20th Panzergrenadier Division (Col / Maj Gen Georg Scholze) 76th & 90th Panzergrenadier Regts 8th Panzer Btn 20th Artillery Regt ‘Müncheberg’ Panzer Division (Maj Gen Werner Mummert) 1st & 2nd ‘Müncheberg’ Panzergrenadier Regts ‘Müncheberg’ Panzer Regt ‘Müncheburg’ Armoured Artillery Regt 920th SPG Training Bde XI SS Panzer Corps (SS Gen Mathias Kleinheisterkamp) 303rd ‘Döberitz’ Infantry Division 169th Infantry Division 712th Infantry Division ‘Kurmark’ Panzergrenadier Division 502nd SS Heavy Tank Btn Frankfurt an der Oder Garrison (Col / Maj Gen Ernst Biehler) V SS Mountain Corps (SS Gen Friedrich Jackeln) 286th Infantry Division 32nd SS ’30. Januar’ Volksgrenadier Division 391st Sy Division 561st SS Tank Hunting Btn ARMY GROUP CENTRE (Field Marshal Ferdinand Schörner) 4th Panzer Army (Gen Fritz-Herbert Gräser) (later transferred to the 9th Army) V Corps (Lt Gen Wagner) 35th SS Police Grenadier Division 36th SS Grenadier Division 275th Infantry Division 342nd Infantry Division 21st Panzer Division 12th Army (Gen Walter Wenck) XX Corps (Gen Carl-Erik Koehler) ‘Theodor Körner’ RAD Division ‘Ulrich von Hutten’ Infantry Division ‘Ferdinand von Schill’ Infantry Division ‘Scharnhorst’ Infantry Division XXXIX Panzer Corps (Lt Gen Karl Arndt) (12 – 21 April 1945 under OKW with the following structure) ‘Clausewitz’ Panzer Division ‘Schlageter’ RAD Division 84th Infantry Division (21 – 26 April 1945 under 12th Army with the following structure) ‘Clausewitz’ Panzer Division 84th Infantry Division ‘Hamburg’ Reserve Infantry Division ‘Meyer’ Infantry Division XXXXI Panzer Corps (Lt Gen Holste) ‘von Hake’ Infantry Division 199th Infantry Division ‘V-Weapons’ Infantry Division 1st HJ Tank Destroyer Bde ‘Hermann Göring’ Jagdpanzer Bde XXXXVIII Panzer Corps (Gen Maximillian Reichsherr von Edelscheim) 14th Flak Division ‘Leipzig’ Battle Group ‘Halle’ Battle Group Ungrouped Formations ‘Friedrich Ludwig Jahn’ RAD Division (Col Gerhard Klein / Col Franz Weller) ‘Potsdam’ Infantry Division (Col Erich Lorenz) Busse's 9th Army and Wenck's 12th Army were prinicipally caught up in the Battle for the Halbe Pocket
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![]() | That OB is fascinating...talk about a "dog's breakfast" of units. The "1001 Nights" brigade? A panzer corps made of Naval Divisions? (Those were sailors released from ships) The 9th Parachute Division held Seelow Heights and crumbled under Soviet pressure. Most of the 9th Parachute Division were Luftwaffe ground crewmen, who had very little infantry training. Thanks for sharing that.
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another interesting figure at the time was the commander of the 56th Panzer Corps General Weidling. In the space of 24 hours he went from being arrested to being made commandant of the Berlin Garrison!!!! Yeah there were some pretty weird units in that order of battle but even take the amount of SS Divisions. Of 38 recognised Units, 11 were formed in 1945!!!: Name Strength 26th SS Ungarische 13000 30th Waffen Grenadier Division Der SS ( Weissruthenische Division ) Strength 4500 31st SS Freiwilligen Grenadier Division Strength 11000 32nd SS Freiwilligen Grenadier Division Strength 2000 33rd Waffen Kavallerie SS Division Destroyed 1945 number given to next 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division Der SS( Charlemagne Division ) 34th Waffen grenadier SS Division ( Landstorm Nederland Division ) Strength 7000 35th SS Polizei Grenadier Division Strength 5000 36th Waffen Grenadier Division Der SS Strength 6000 37th SS Freiwilligen Kavallerie Division (Lutzow Division ) Strength 1000 38th SS Grenadier Division ( Nibelungen ) Strength 1000 As can be seen very few, if any, of these units came anywhere near what could be classed as divisional strength.
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![]() | Really interesting informaton Gotthard. Thanks for sharing that, there really was a hodge podge of units defending Berlin, many nowhere near what could be classed as divisional strength.
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Also, remember that britain had the Royal Naval Division in WWI which was made up of serving RN people. in addition after D-day there was a run down of units in RAF and many personnel were transfered to the army. men who had volunteered from Aircrew duties found themselves humping rifles around Northern europe.
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