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| WW2 Veteran ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Did Bulgaria fight alongside the Germans? Dont give an opinion about something you lnow nothing about. The men that murdered our men in Normandy were German Soldiers. And they murdered in cold blood. German Soldiers ran the extermination camps. It was fine while they were winning. a different story when they started to lose. 60 million people died in WW2 and the German soldier did the best part of that killing. There is nothing anyone can say that will bring the murdered British and Canadians back. All you politically correct can call for what you like. it is us old Veterans that went and fought these savages that have the right to forgive. NO THANKS Sapper |
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![]() | Sapper, As a veteran yourself, I would never second guess your instinct. I asked my grandfather as a child (about 10 years old) if he would ever speak to a Japanese person. I remember him saying, 'No'. He then contemplated for a little while and said, 'certainly not someone my age, I guess I could talk to someone your age (their grandchildren)'. His feelings and memories ran very deep. I think it is entirely a personal decision. There really is no 'correct' answer. No rational or encompassing slogan will give an answer. It is your memories, feelings and reasoning. |
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| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cambridgeshire UK
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![]() | This is something that is between the Veteran,his conscience & his enemy,some do choose to forgive,but rarely forget,others carry their scars & emnity to the grave,who are we to judge. The sins of the Fathers should however not be visited upon the Sons
__________________ In Memory Of Sergeant~Pilot Bernard Henson,RAFVR; 32 Sqn/257 Sqn RAF 1924~1940,Who Died @ the Guns of Adolf Galland,"A Few Quick Bursts From My Guns Put The Pilot Out Of His Misery" Adolf Galland Speaking Of 17th November 1940 in his Autobiography. "Per Ardua Ad Astra" Bernards Picture is My Avatar All Men Of The 1st & 2nd Battalions The Cambridgeshire Regiment,T.A;1939~46;Especially those who did not return:Salute The Fen Tigers. Last edited by Sgt Pilot Bernard Henson RAFVR; 03-01-2007 at 04:04 AM. |
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![]() | Was that because they were "oversexed, overpaid and over here" ![]()
__________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page) |
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| | #257 (permalink) |
| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
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![]() | after being liberated by the americans he was then seconded to them being a medic, and to his dying day he maintained that the attrocities they carried out towards the germans, were worse than anything done by the germans, and he was one of the first medics to arive at the nazi death camps. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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![]() | As a veteran of another war, I have to say the thought of forgiveness is a difficult one for me to entertain, but I know others who have done it and I have no problem with that. In my view it is definitely a personal decision that has to be made by the individual concerned.
__________________ Pete In memory of Cpl Harry Davis, 2/48th Battalion, A.I.F. who died at the second Battle of Alamein. Remembering Pvte Jim Kelly, 2/48th Battalion, A.I.F. (uncle of the above) who survived the second Battle of Alamein. Though they never met ~ through my research, yet shall they live! |
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| | #259 (permalink) |
| WW2 Veteran ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004
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![]() ![]() ![]() | I can forgive the Wehrmacht Soldier, but not the SS. But I cannot forgive what they did to innocent women and children. To burn down a Church they had packed with women and children, so that they were burned alive...I cannot forgive, I have hopes that those responsible will, when the time comes, have to answer for their deeds. I hope that they will be sentenced to listen to the hideous screams of women and little children. The screams of little children as their own skin and flesh melted, as they slowly burned alive..I hope that they will have to listen....For all eternity. Sound never goes away completely it just fades in volume. Somewhere out there in the universe, those screams are still echoing. Orador sur glan, Lidice, and a thousand other atrocities that were committed when they were "Winning" Sapper |
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| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: Nov 2007
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![]() ![]() | I don't believe it's anyones place to suggest what Veterans should or shouldn't do. It's up to them and as such effectively nobody else's business. I remain deeply grateful for what British veterans did for us as a nation, and what allied veterans did for us as allies. I also bear no ill feeling towards veterans from the other side nor their descendants - since, thankfully, hostilities have ceased. This isn't apologism nor revisionism, as those who committed atrocities meet their maker they shall be judged and it's not my place to question the wisdom of the Lord, just as it isn't to question whether veterans should or should not be willing to forgive. |
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