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09-12-2005, 10:59 PM
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 | Ok, whatever you decide is your right. I'm not posting here to change anyones mind, I never siad I was. I believe that everyone in this world has a right to their own opinion. "History is written by the victors." - Winston Churchill 1945 "Grief and tragedy and hatred are only for a time. Goodness, remembrance and love have no end." George W Bush 2001 Regards MG http://www.forgiving.org/
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13-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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| As a Battlefield Guide I quite often take mixed groups of British and German Vets back to North Africa. Without doubt they are always the best tours. Every year the DAK vets gather at Rommels grave for a Memorial Service not just for Rommel, but for all those that died in Afrika. There has always been British Vets present. Regards - MF |
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15-12-2005, 09:48 PM
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| [quote name='sapper' date='Dec 9 2005, 05:15 PM' post='20173'] I am only to aware of the crimes of other nations on their own peoples, and abhor all that they stood for. As to forgiving my enemies? I would find that very difficult indeed. Why? simple really. It is not crimes commited in the heat and passion of miltary action that make me think this way..it is the deliberate cold blooded torture and the mindless killing on innocents, specially little chilren, For if anything stands out at all in this world? But how then about kommunists! Natzis killed! Truth! How about kommunists! Do You belive that the kommunists didn´t killed innocent little children! Little Children froze to death in Siberia. They brothers, sisters and parents too! it is that a man has a supreme duty above all others, ...... |
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15-12-2005, 10:17 PM
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| Why You people closed the- Should Russia Have Been Taken Down? That is very impontant to write truth about history! Why writings about Natzis crimes is´t political and the same writings/opinions about Kommunists is political! Sorry but I dont understand You people correctly! Why is debats about Natzsis crimes, especially how they killed little innocent children is promised and the debats about Kommunists Killers is closed very soon/fast! I truly belive in Your justice and hope that the ´´Should Russia Have Been Taken Down?´´ WILL be back! |
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15-12-2005, 10:22 PM
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| Per Ardua Ad Astra   Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK
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 | It was closed to prevent flaming, it was closed when it was to avoid things getting heated as thing were already becoming that way. It is done now and it will not be reopened.
__________________  "Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few" Sir Winston Chuchill, Summer 1940 "To him the people of Britain and the free world owe largely the way of life they enjoy today" Ensciption on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-1940) Statue in London Aircraft of World War 2 Forum - A Warbird Forum |
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16-12-2005, 02:49 PM
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| I believe that the question was 'should old veterans forgive their former enemies?' Surely that is entirely up to the individual concerned. Forgiveness is not something that can be forced upon an individual. Kiwiwriter summed it up more elequently than I could in a couple of posts - forgiveness is a personal matter. If sapper is unable to forgive, that is up to him. Some veterans, regardless of who they fought for, have forgiven, others not. They must take that decision to their maker. Roxy
__________________ Remembering my good mates Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 who died in Afghanistan on 2 Sep 06. Also remembering my ggf Pte Thomas Roberts who fought for his country in The Great War and died on 25 Sep 15 at Loos. And my gf Pte Thomas Roxburgh who fought for his country in the Second World War and survived. |
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16-12-2005, 09:24 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2004
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| Just a repeat of my posting in the "Fear" thread .......... I am sorry to see you leave, Sapper. I am almost as old as you and experienced much of the horror of WW2, surviving Air Raids, V1 flying bomb attacks, privation and rationing on the British Homefront. I also served in the US Military in the Korean and Vietnam wars and so I have "walked in your moccasins". Because of that, I think I understand your motivations and feelings as you posted here. You are one of a fast disappearing and precious band of heroes. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to your country and the cause of freedom in the civilised world. James |
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