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Old 29-07-2005, 02:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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In my opinion politicians made the great act of forgiving into another empty gesture.
On most occasions, politicians say what they know people want to hear (political correctness), not always what they feel.
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Old 29-07-2005, 04:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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In my opinion politicians made the great act of forgiving into another empty gesture.

I think you're right, there.
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Old 29-07-2005, 04:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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On most occasions, politicians say what they know people want to hear (political correctness), not always what they feel.
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Politilcians will do anything to get re-elected.
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Old 30-07-2005, 11:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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On most occasions, politicians say what they know people want to hear (political correctness), not always what they feel.

Politilcians will do anything to get re-elected.
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They wouldn't be in that mould in the USA would they? I thought they were all gentlemen over there!!!!
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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Old 01-08-2005, 05:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
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In my opinion politicians made the great act of forgiving into another empty gesture.


On most occasions, politicians say what they know people want to hear (political correctness), not always what they feel.



Politilcians will do anything to get re-elected.
They wouldn't be in that mould in the USA would they? I thought they were all gentlemen over there!!!!
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HAH! You must be bloody joking! Over here, elections are mud-and-circuses! Two weeks ago, the two contenders for mayor of a large American city faced off at a kids' basketball tournament and dared each other to throw the first punch. Both sides' aides tried to, instead. Police broke the fracas up. The eight-year-old kids were not impressed at seeing their would-be leaders acting like...well...eight-year-olds.
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They wouldn't be in that mould in the USA would they? I thought they were all gentlemen over there!!!!
HA!!

I have worked in both Australian and U.S. state governments and I can assure you that Australian politicians are just as crooked as ours in the U.S.

Granted, Louisiana politicians have turned it into a tradition that we are rather proud of.
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:47 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Hi Brian,

You have confirmed what most educated people know. Politicians are elected to do the things they promised to do however they do not have the time as they spend 99% of their time working towards re-election!

Australian politicians are the same as everywhere else (politics in general) and 95% are all painted with the same brush.

"Tow the party line" especially in Australia.

Hope you enjoyed your time here. Which state?
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site:
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The more I read about Japanese troops and their atrocities the less I'm inclined to feel they deserve forgiveness. I'm sure everyone in this forum has heard about the slaughter of wounded Allied troops, the Bataan Death March, etc. etc. etc....I could go on for days. But the Japanese also activally pursued the slaughter of unarmed non-combatants with no mercy. THAT is totally unforgivable in my mind. And what further infuriates me is how the Japanese government to this day wants to sweep all their atrocities under the rug and forget about it. :angry: I would probably say "That serves you right!" If I heard in the future that China had invaded and plundered their country. (Dont laugh at that last statement, the two governments lately have been at serious odds precisely over the fact that the Japanese won't admit to atrocities commited against China in WWII. In fact several riots have taken place in China and Japanese stores and businesses located in China have been burned and looted.)
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The more I read about Japanese troops and their atrocities the less I'm inclined to feel they deserve forgiveness. I'm sure everyone in this forum has heard about the slaughter of wounded Allied troops, the Bataan Death March, etc. etc. etc....I could go on for days. But the Japanese also activally pursued the slaughter of unarmed non-combatants with no mercy. THAT is totally unforgivable in my mind. And what further infuriates me is how the Japanese government to this day wants to sweep all their atrocities under the rug and forget about it. :angry: I would probably say "That serves you right!" If I heard in the future that China had invaded and plundered their country. (Dont laugh at that last statement, the two governments lately have been at serious odds precisely over the fact that the Japanese won't admit to atrocities commited against China in WWII. In fact several riots have taken place in China and Japanese stores and businesses located in China have been burned and looted.)
i would help the chinese the japs were a**h***s to the allies armed forces my great uncle died a the hands of the japanese and he was a pow
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And what further infuriates me is how the Japanese government to this day wants to sweep all their atrocities under the rug and forget about it. :angry: I would probably say "That serves you right!" If I heard in the future that China had invaded and plundered their country. (Dont laugh at that last statement, the two governments lately have been at serious odds precisely over the fact that the Japanese won't admit to atrocities commited against China in WWII. In fact several riots have taken place in China and Japanese stores and businesses located in China have been burned and looted.)
Go China!!!
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