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Old 20-03-2006, 01:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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if it were not for the jews there would be no ww2

some people say if it was not for the jews there might not have been a second world war the only thing i find unusal is why did hitler hate the jews i think because they were rich and strange.
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Old 20-03-2006, 10:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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War was inevitable after the 1919 Treaty of Versailles impoverished, disarmed and stripped the Germans from their territories.

Hitler managed to create a great German nation with a national pride. But his expansionist, political and foreign policy aims took a bad turn in 1939.
Hitler also had a hatred for Communists, criminals, Slavs, as well as the physically and mentally challanged. Before he started on the Jews, he had perfected his genocide on his own people.

Hitlers irrational hatred for the Jews remained with him to the last. On April 29 1945, when he dictated his last will and political statement, he referred to,

"....It is untrue that I, or anyone else in Germany, wanted the war in 1939. It was desired and instigated solely by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish decent or worked for Jewish interests.......Jewery, which is the real criminal of this murderous struggle...


Page 724 - 725 Hitler A Study in Tranny Alan Bullock, Odhams Press 1954.
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Old 20-03-2006, 01:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Having read a WW1 poetry anthology a couple of years back, one of the poets actually commented that "We have fought the fathers, now we must fight the sons".
Many people knew it was coming, as the problems caused by Versailles were enough to relight the blue touch paper. Hitler was merely the suppurating boil at the top of the whole damn mess. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone else.
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some people say if it was not for the jews there might not have been a second world war the only thing i find unusal is why did hitler hate the jews i think because they were rich and strange.
This is a question, which is more suited to the Holocaust forum rather than this one.

However, in saying that, what you have said resembles statements said by The far right in germany since the middle 19th century.

As for why Hitler hated the jews, there are many theories on why but no real reason has been given. Even Hitler changed his mind on why he hated them. in mein Kampf, he mentioned that it was in Vienna that he discovered the menace of the jews, but eye-witness testimoney of the time says that in fact he did quite well because of his dealings with jews.
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some people say if it was not for the jews there might not have been a second world war the only thing i find unusal is why did hitler hate the jews i think because they were rich and strange.
Only through the distorted prism of Hitler and other anti-Semites, who saw then and see now Jews as "types," not people. They assume that all Jews are the stereotypical caftan-wearing black-hatted, bearded, grubby, whining, secretive collection of omnipotent pawnbrokers, bankers, and Bolsheviks, all in service to Satan, Stalin, and gold.

Once you start with that view of the Jews, you're ready to attribute all manner of evil and power to them.

Sometimes I wish Jews had that much power. It would make my life a lot easier. Instead of being in debt and living in poverty in Newark, I'd live in a gigantic mansion in New Zealand, with a second one in San Francisco, a third in New York, a fourth in London, and be a part-owner of the New York Yankees.
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If it wasnt Hitler it would have been someone else. The Jewish Race has been loathed and persecuted throughout Europe since the Middle Ages when moneylenders made money (nothing wrong with this by the way) fropm Christian knights who wanted to fund crusades to the Holy Land. They have endured Progroms, Rascism, and even Genocide. Even writers such as Shakespeare and Dickens protrayed Jews as villains (Shylock in Merchant of Venice and Fagin in Oliver Twist). All I can say is that they deserve to be left in peace after all thats been thrown at them and they are still around.
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Old 20-03-2006, 06:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The Bible doesn't help matters, does it? In it the Jews are asked if they are willing to take the punishment for having Jesus crucified, and they said yes they were. Hence several thousand years of punishment with completely inbred wassaks holding it up as an excuse to commit genocide and wipe out whole communities.
I'm just thankful the historians are now finding the lost books from the bible and reading them, now maybe we'll get the other side of the story.
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Hitler saw the defeat of Germany in the WW1 more a stab in the back by the German Government than a victory by the Allies. He saw profiteering by Jewish bankers and industrialist getting fat while the ordinary German soldiers and people were starving. Living through the Weimar Republic only hardened his views against Jews and other 'unter Mensch' who had betrayed Germany in WW1.
Anyway I have read somewhere Hitler dislike the Jews because he caught clap from a Jewish French whore! Tut Tut syphillis and it wasn't treated properly? Could have been a rumour put about by Churchill, nuf said.

I don't think there was WW2 because of the Jews. One can't blame WW2 on the Jews as well as everything else.

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Anyway I have read somewhere Hitler dislike the Jews because he caught clap from a Jewish French whore!
I read a version which says it was a whore in Vienna.
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