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Old 22-04-2006, 09:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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More so in the past but even true in some places now, Jewish people tended to be quite insular. They had their own way of dressing, their own holidays, their own tight communities and even their own schools.

This would mean that they could quite easily be seen as outsiders by the rest of the population and as we all know, outsiders are sometimes feared and if better off than the rest of the locals, can be open to accusations of greed, theft or other 'crimes'.

It is unfortunate, but it is part of human nature. It's hard to be different.
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Old 22-04-2006, 09:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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fact was that jews were very intellectual and more busy which made them quite rich and so many people
For centuries Jews were limited to certain jews, one of which was Finance which Christians considered it to be beneath them.

In 1190, in York, Scores of Jews were hounded into a tower and then slaughtered by the townsfolk, after they had given up their debts records.

the world famous blood libel began in Bowthrope wood in Norwich when the body of a young boy was found, the rumour started that he had been the victom of a blood sacriface carried out by jews.

interesting to note that the chapel dedicated to Saint william in the now Anglican catherald has been removed from sight.

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For centuries Jews were limited to certain jews, one of which was Finance which Christians considered it to be beneath them.

In 1109, in york, Scores of jews were slaughtered by the townsfolk, after they had given up their debts records.

the world famous blood libel began in Bowthrope wood in Norwich when the body of a young boy was found, the rumour started that he had been the victom of a blood sacriface carried out by jews.

interesting to note that the chapel dedicated to Saint william in the now Anglican catherald has been removed from sight.
I think in places in Italy and France the plague was blamed on the Jews and they were murdered.
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It's important to understand the Third Reich and know about Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, PolPot, Mao, Kim Jong Il so that we can understand history to try and prevent the dark side from repeating its evil menace.
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It's important to understand the Third Reich and know about Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, PolPot, Mao, Kim Jong Il so that we can understand history to try and prevent the dark side from repeating its evil menace.
I agree, what's gone wrong in the past should be studied and lessons learned and not forgotten.

But there is somewhere a line that can be crossed. That point where you look at the life and work of a dictator or regime and it is no longer through the eyes of an enthusiast, historian or student. You go over the line and you can start to hold your subject in awe. It's once you pass that line that you can cease to be an enthisiast, historian or student and can become a fanatic.

A fanatic will look at historic truth and form it around what has happened in order to fit their ideas, making excuses if you will, if not to excuse at least to give reason. It's a short step from there to condoning actions and supporting the polotics.

That is the danger, although I'd hope most people were intelligent enough to see the line approaching.
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I agree, what's gone wrong in the past should be studied and lessons learned and not forgotten.

But there is somewhere a line that can be crossed. That point where you look at the life and work of a dictator or regime and it is no longer through the eyes of an enthusiast, historian or student. You go over the line and you can start to hold your subject in awe. It's once you pass that line that you can cease to be an enthisiast, historian or student and can become a fanatic.

A fanatic will look at historic truth and form it around what has happened in order to fit their ideas, making excuses if you will, if not to excuse at least to give reason. It's a short step from there to condoning actions and supporting the polotics.

That is the damger, although I'd hope most people were intelligent enough to see the line approaching.
Theres a line??????? Darn! "walks off whistling "Horst Wessel"!!!

Seriously thought Plant-Pilot is right. Enthusiasm and Fanaticism should not be confused.
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Seriously thought Plant-Pilot is right. Enthusiasm and Fanaticism should not be confused.
You mean I posted all that when one line would have done! I'm just too enthusiastic.
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You mean I posted all that when one line would have done! I'm just too enthusiastic.
But cute...
Fanaticism can come in so many different strengths: - there are those who live the period. And then there are those who try to bring it back. It's the latter that are the dangerous ones. The former just need to get out in the fresh air more.
 
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Fanaticism can come in so many different strengths: - there are those who live the period. And then there are those who try to bring it back. It's the latter that are the dangerous ones. The former just need to get out in the fresh air more.
But the former are 'Fans' in the new corrupt meaning of the word, the latter are 'fanatics' in the true meaning of the word.
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