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Old 24-11-2006, 12:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Reading Hitlers Lips

Have a look at this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nhitler22.xml
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Old 24-11-2006, 12:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've always wanted someone who could lip read to tell me what the men in old Great War footage were saying.

Peter we can now add Eva Braun's choice to the favourite non-war movie thread.
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Old 24-11-2006, 12:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Loved the comment on Goering - and joke about Eva filming an old man was almost funny.

Oops - just remembered this funny guy murdered six million Jews.
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To see the film (WITHOUT the lip reading) that the article mentions then have a look here:

http://www.hitlershomemovies.com/
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Old 24-11-2006, 05:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Very very interesting!

I did not like the comments on Hitler being supposed to be an alien monster and instead showing a human facet. That's ridiculous, Hitler was indeed human, but his psychological structure was different from the average bloke. I have worked for some weird bosses, I would jump a wall to escape from working for him!

Now what we need is a version of the software that can read Russian, there's some Stalin footage I'd like to see processed in this way
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Hitler was normal man but with more desire to lead his people to victory and make Germany bigger and stronger.He loved his coutry he wanted the world to be rule by discipline and order.Its really stuped to make those movies with Hitler voice by reading his lips.They can make him say whatever they like we cant be sure if its really true.And why we should see what Hitler did in his free time what he said to eva braun.
Im a man with big sance of hummor but i respect the people who loved there coutry and who die for the glory its not funy its heroic.
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Hitler was normal man but with more desire to lead his people to victory and make Germany bigger and stronger.He loved his coutry he wanted the world to be rule by discipline and order.Its really stuped to make those movies with Hitler voice by reading his lips.They can make him say whatever they like we cant be sure if its really true.And why we should see what Hitler did in his free time what he said to eva braun.
Im a man with big sance of hummor but i respect the people who loved there coutry and who die for the glory its not funy its heroic.
The Obersalzburg was a world apart from the reality that was happening in the Third Reich.Hitler was a political monster, his every word was taken down by his sycophants and interpretated by those of his close circle,commoningly referred to as "Table Talk". It resulted in policies being created and enacted under the Third Reich Enabling Act." No democratic discussion was entered in to. "It is the Fuhrers command" which was the usual qualification for any law initiated from this "Table Talk" which usually resulted in more living hell inflicted on the majority of Germans.For the average German to think and say of what was happening in the Third Reich,"if only the Fuhrer knew" was a plea that would never reach Hitler.

Hitler was not a German but an Austrian who power lusted for a greater role in world history.It is evident that he did not love "his Germany" but in the end,blamed the ordinary German people for his own shortcomings and disasterous policies..He never met an ordinary German after 1943 apart from his attempt to send more German teenagers to their deaths in March 1945 by awarding them medals and nipping their cheeks.

One thing is I could never understand how his ranting and raving at his public speeches, seduced a nation.If his speeches were analysised,little detail was highlighted.

Small talk as that revealed by his time at the Obersalzberg,the second seat of his Third Reich will always be interesting to historians,a man who cared more for animals than the human race.

Hitler devoted more time on a personal basis to the proving of Aryan purity of SS and their brides in order to grant marriage permission than time spent studying the appeals against death sentences from those of the German people who had who shown the slightest dissention to his Third Reich.

Hitler had no formal military training and his interference as head of the Wehrmacht ensured that the Allies could always count on his defiance to face stark military reality.
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The Obersalzburg was a world apart from the reality that was happening in the Third Reich.Hitler was a political monster, his every word was taken down by his sycophants and interpretated by those of his close circle,commoningly referred to as "Table Talk". It resulted in policies being created and enacted under the Third Reich Enabling Act." No democratic discussion was entered in to. "It is the Fuhrers command" which was the usual qualification for any law initiated from this "Table Talk" which usually resulted in more living hell inflicted on the majority of Germans.For the average German to think and say of what was happening in the Third Reich,"if only the Fuhrer knew" was a plea that would never reach Hitler.

Hitler was not a German but an Austrian who power lusted for a greater role in world history.It is evident that he did not love "his Germany" but in the end,blamed the ordinary German people for his own shortcomings and disasterous policies..He never met an ordinary German after 1943 apart from his attempt to send more German teenagers to their deaths in March 1945 by awarding them medals and nipping their cheeks.

One thing is I could never understand how his ranting and raving at his public speeches, seduced a nation.If his speeches were analysised,little detail was highlighted.

Small talk as that revealed by his time at the Obersalzberg,the second seat of his Third Reich will always be interesting to historians,a man who cared more for animals than the human race.

Hitler devoted more time on a personal basis to the proving of Aryan purity of SS and their brides in order to grant marriage permission than time spent studying the appeals against death sentences from those of the German people who had who shown the slightest dissention to his Third Reich.

Hitler had no formal military training and his interference as head of the Wehrmacht ensured that the Allies could always count on his defiance to face stark military reality.
When you hate this man so much and think he is a psihipath why do you want to know what he said ?
Did you live with Hitler ? Did you know him personaly?
You talk so sure about him like you was near him all the time.
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He loved his country SO much that he was prepared to see it all destroyed at the end of the war because the German people had 'failed' him.
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I really think there is a danger in de-humanising Hitler. He was after all a man, no more, no less. By putting him on some sort pedastal of non-human evil, we would be forgetting the lessons of following such a person. He was a charismatic speaker, was prone to fits of unbelievable anger, made decisions that do not seem ration, had a psychotic hatred of Jews etc - but so did many others. How is it that we don't give the same treatment to Stalin, Mao etc. I think Hitler was an evil man but in a socio-psychological sense, not as some uber-monster.

As to the reasons WHY so many Germans followed him - well, it has stumped some of the greatest historians and psychologists over the last 60 years (and I doubt that the debates will end anytime soon)
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