Hitlers Euthanasia Programme - Page 2

spidge · 17-11-2005, 12:29 AM

Small sections extracted by others however not in full.

Gnomey · 17-11-2005, 01:44 PM

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(spidge @ Nov 16 2005, 10:29 PM) [post=41640]Small sections extracted by others however not in full.
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Same for me. I have only read extracts and not the full thing.

Kiwiwriter · 17-11-2005, 04:54 PM

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(adamcotton @ Nov 16 2005, 08:35 AM) [post=41623]Just as a matter of academic interest, has anyone here read "Mein Kampf"? If so, thoughts welcome...
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I don't think anyone has read "Mein Kampf," except some neo-Nazis interviewed in a book I have on the subject. That includes Nazi leadership.

There is a story that Otto Strasser, the Nazi bigshot, invited a bunch of people to dinner in Berlin, and in the conversation, all discovered that none had read "Mein Kampf." Strasser decided to grill everyone who came to the dinner, and whoever had read the book would get stuck with the bill. Each new arrivee admitted he hadn't read the book. When Goering showed up, he just laughed at the question. When Goebbels showed up, he admitted to not having read the book.

Everyone paid for their own dinner.

So you can imagine my amazement to read that some neo-Nazi kids...teenagers in Detroit...said they had read the book. I wondered if they had actually read it or just told the interviewer -- a psychologist doing a study on them -- that they had. (It should be noted the shrink was not credulous....he saw through them pretty effectively)

adamcotton · 30-12-2005, 10:39 PM

I too have only read extracts on the net.

What I found so frightening was how credulous Hitler could sound to the uneducated mind. It is not difficult to see how his rhetoric would appeal to a Germany reeling from the inequities of the Treaty of Versailles.

bartsch · 31-12-2005, 05:25 PM

Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?

jimbotosome · 01-01-2006, 04:35 AM

So what are you trying to say Geoff? That Hitler himself was one "sick" B******?

If the SS had orders to kill the mentally ill then by not putting a bullet through "his" brain should have amounted to insubordination shouldn't it? I thought they always obeyed orders! Folks I think we have exposed a crack in their excuse foundation that they were only following orders! I wonder if this argument was brought up at the Nurenburg Trials...

spidge · 01-01-2006, 08:57 AM

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(bartsch @ Jan 1 2006, 02:25 AM) [post=43836]Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?
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While you are entitled to put your opinion, it is probably one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard.

The fault in nature should never be construed as the intent of nature as you have so lightly stated.

You seem to be intimating that modern medicine is wasted on these unfortunate brothers and sisters rather than the reason for its existence.

adamcotton · 01-01-2006, 07:14 PM

"Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?"

Excuse me! What kind of sick philosophy is that? How do you know what nature intended? You are peddling Social Darwinism at its most disgusting!!!

If your mother developed paranoid schizophrenia, or alzheimers, or if your brother was born with Downes Syndrome, would you be of the opinion that nature intended to deny them the right to life? It's the twisted, perverted way of thinking you sought to propogate with that last post that has led to so much needless suffering in the world.

Go get a human soul you unfeeling b*****d!

jimbotosome · 01-01-2006, 07:36 PM

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(bartsch @ Dec 31 2005, 10:25 AM) [post=43836]Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?
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I wonder if you have ever taken a medication like an antibiotic or a tetanus shot. If so there is a good chance you are alive only because these modern medicines or technologies, etc... and nature intended you to die and you shouldn't be alive in the first place either.

adamcotton · 01-01-2006, 07:46 PM

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(jimbotosome @ Jan 1 2006, 05:36 PM) [post=43870]

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(bartsch @ Dec 31 2005, 10:25 AM) [post=43836]Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?
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I wonder if you have ever taken a medication like an antibiotic or a tetanus shot. If so there is a good chance you are alive only because these modern medicines or technologies, etc... and nature intended you to die and you shouldn't be alive in the first place either.
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Well said, Jimbo! For once you and I are in total agreement!!!

17-11-2005, 12:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
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30-12-2005, 10:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
adamcotton Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 352	I too have only read extracts on the net. What I found so frightening was how credulous Hitler could sound to the uneducated mind. It is not difficult to see how his rhetoric would appeal to a Germany reeling from the inequities of the Treaty of Versailles. __________________ *Adam* *Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth* *And danced the skies on laughter silvered wings* *Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth Of sun split clouds -* *and done a hundred things* *You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there, I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air.* *Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue* *I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace Where never lark or even eagle flew-* *And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod* *The high untrespassed sanctity of space,* *Put out my hand and touched the face of God.* - John Gillespie Magee, Jr. 1922-1941

01-01-2006, 07:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
adamcotton Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 352	"Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?" Excuse me! What kind of sick philosophy is that? How do you know what nature intended? You are peddling Social Darwinism at its most disgusting!!! If your mother developed paranoid schizophrenia, or alzheimers, or if your brother was born with Downes Syndrome, would you be of the opinion that nature intended to deny them the right to life? It's the twisted, perverted way of thinking you sought to propogate with that last post that has led to so much needless suffering in the world. Go get a human soul you unfeeling b***d! __________________ Adam Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter silvered wings Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth Of sun split clouds - and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there, I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air. Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace Where never lark or even eagle flew- And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand and touched the face of God.** - John Gillespie Magee, Jr. 1922-1941

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bartsch Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5	Most people with these mental and physical handicaps are only alive because of modern medicines, technologies, etc... so should they even be alive in the first place when nature intended them to die?

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jimbotosome Very Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,019	So what are you trying to say Geoff? That Hitler himself was one "sick" B******? If the SS had orders to kill the mentally ill then by not putting a bullet through "his" brain should have amounted to insubordination shouldn't it? I thought they always obeyed orders! Folks I think we have exposed a crack in their excuse foundation that they were only following orders! I wonder if this argument was brought up at the Nurenburg Trials...

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