05-06-2006, 11:36 AM
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| Top Moose   Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs
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 | Thought I'd bump this thread up because we moan about crime levels today and look back at the 1940s through rose coloured glasses. I remember reading that crime levels shot up from peace-time levels during WW2. An aspect of the war we tend to forget. |
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05-06-2006, 11:46 AM
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| I Like Tanks.   Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion.
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| The black, hidden graves for the executed mentioned by Kiwi intrigue me, anyone come across any pictures or know what is written on the markers? I can find Slovik's US grave but nothing on the original stones? Any chance anyone knows which issue of 'After the Battle' they might have cropped up in? |
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05-06-2006, 12:10 PM
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| Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs
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| Here's the booklet for Oise-Aisne Cemetery. plots ABCD mentioned. As Kiwi said no plot E. need Adobe Reader. http://www.abmc.gov/cemeteries/cemeteries/oa_pict.pdf |
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05-06-2006, 12:53 PM
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| Angels one-five   Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somewhere in Time
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| A very interesting thread. Would like to know the details for the WAAF murders in WWII.
__________________ 'There I stood at the bar, wearing a Mae West, no jacket, and beginning to leak blood from my torn boot. None of the golfers took any notice of me - after all, I wasn't a member!' Kenneth Lee - after being shot down on the 18th August 1940. In the USAAF in World War II, over three times as many men were killed as wounded. Donald L. Miller. Avatar: SOE agent Andree Borrel killed at Natzweiler 6th July 1944.  |
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05-06-2006, 04:36 PM
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| I Like Tanks. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion.
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| More on 'Plot E' here: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45977 and a little from Kiwi on another forum to say they are just numbered black slabs. http://forums.wildbillguarnere.com/i...showtopic=4513 Interesting photo allegedly of Sloviks execution linked from that. |
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05-06-2006, 05:28 PM
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| Very Senior Member   Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newark, NJ, and Christchurch, NZ
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 |  The "dishonored" plot Quote:
They are further discussed in an ATB issue, No. 35 or 36, I think, that discusses the whole Slovik case. That plot is not shown on maps of the cemetery, and visitors were not allowed in at the time of that issue. Slovik's body was sent home and is buried in a family plot in Michigan...but not before it got lost at Detroit Airport, which figures. My understanding is that the flat black stones only have ASNs, but I'm not sure. There is one cross standing up for the whole section. I once heard that the Battle Monuments Commission exhumed the various coffins and shipped them home, but I'm not sure if that's true. Anyone living or touring near Oise-Aisne Cemetery can find out. Buried in the plots of honored dead is Joyce Kilmer, author of "Trees."
__________________ "My intensity is intense." -- Roger Clemens "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -- Winston Churchill. "I am not a hero. The heroes are all dead. I am a survivor." -- Sgt. William Guarnere, Easy Company, 506th Parachute Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Check out my little contributions to World War II history at my web pages: World War II Plus 55 or http://davidhlippman.wildbillguarnere.com | |
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05-06-2006, 11:02 PM
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| Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs
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| Good link VP. Quote from it Quote:
On GWF someone said some of the men in the dishonoured plot were originally buried at Brookwood US Cemetery, Surrey. | |
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