Who was the worst of the SS?

[marcus69x]

Haha, sorry for bringing this up again, but looking at the photos on the two links above, I really do think they look incredibly alike. Does anyone else agree? I think the similarity is uncanny.

[Drew5233]

Originally Posted by marcus69x

Been reading a bit about the Holocaust today and having seen Schindlers list, I thought I'd read a bit about the evil Amon Goth who was in charge of Plaszow.

Quote, "In Płaszów, Göth tortured and murdered prisoners on a daily basis. During his time at Płaszów, Göth allegedly shot over 500 Jews himself; Poldek Pfefferberg, one of the Schindler Jews, famously said, "When you saw Göth, you saw death."

Sounds like a nice bloke!

Anyway, I'm off to watch it now, but I thought I'd ask the forum:

Who was the worst of the SS?

Interesting thread this....

Just because you mentioned Schindlers list have you seen The Pianist?

[marcus69x]

Originally Posted by Drew5233

have you seen The Pianist?

No mate. I remember it getting an oscar but was never bothered about it. I never knew it was ww2 related. I did see a trailer a while ago and was surprised to learn it was. I've thought about hiring it out a few times.

Is it any good? Just had a look at the wiki review of it and it sounds ok.

[liverpool annie]

And a woman too !!

Irma Grese and the Holocaust (Link removed - vP)

[Drew5233]

Originally Posted by marcus69x

No mate. I remember it getting an oscar but was never bothered about it. I never knew it was ww2 related. I did see a trailer a while ago and was surprised to learn it was. I've thought about hiring it out a few times.

Is it any good? Just had a look at the wiki review of it and it sounds ok.

Yes its very good...So much so I was surprised how good.

It's based on a true story set around the ghetto's etc in Warsaw (It covers the uprising briefly)......A must see film in my opinion

[Drew5233]

You may as well but it rather than rent

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/32745...t/Product.html

[PsyWar.Org]

Originally Posted by Drew5233

Yes its very good...So much so I was surprised how good.

It's based on a true story set around the ghetto's etc in Warsaw (It covers the uprising briefly)......A must see film in my opinion

Yes I second that, The Pianist is a very moving film.

Just watched The Counterfeiters about the forging of British and US banknotes by Jewish inmates at Sachsenhausen. A very good movie but a little disappointing for me as I was hoping for more detail regarding the actual forging operations.

[marcus69x]

No replies about it so here goes one last time.

Goth and Oswald are brothers born in different decades :







Shave Oswalds hair and he is... Goth. .

[marcus69x]

[machine shop tom]

Originally Posted by liverpool annie

And a woman too !!

Irma Grese and the Holocaust (Link removed - vP)

Beware that the judicial-inc. site is an anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli nutjob site.

Some info not on the judicial site:

"Irma Grese was born in a small town named Wrechen; her father was a milker and her mother committed suicide, allegedly because of marital problems, when Irma was nine. A member of the female Hitler youth organization, Grese left school in 1938 by the age of 15, and in 1942, at age 18, volunteered for SS-Helferinnen (Female Helpers') training at the Ravensbrück concentration camp. She was later transferred to Auschwitz, as a Senior Supervisor and the second highest ranking woman at the camp, in charge of up to 30,000 Jewish female prisoners at any given time. She was in charge of Krema Three briefly, a large crematorium that burned thousands of executed camp residents. In her time there she was considered the cruelest of the guards. She carried a sidearm as did most guards but also a cellophane whip which she used often on exhausted prisoners. The inmates dubbed Grese, the youngest guard at the camp and a striking blue-eyed blonde, the "Beautiful Beast." At her trial it was testified that she set dogs loose on bound prisoners, chose who would go to the gas chamber, beat prisoners with every tool she had including a whip, and ordered the skinning of three inmates. Found in her barracks hut were the skins that she had had made into lamp shades. She and also became something of a sexual fanatic, taking several brief lovers including the camp commandant and the infamous physician Josef Mengele. At her trial it was implied that she seemed to derive sexual pleasure from acts of sadism."

From here: Irma Grese Beast of Auschwitz: The most notorious SS guard in the history of Auschwitz

Not quite as sympathetic as the judicial site.

Excerpts from her trial: Irma Grese "Excerpts from the Belsen Trials" www.HolocaustResearchProject.org

There are some websites that are dedicated to either denying or minimizing the actions of Grese. They can be found by doing a search of her name. I'll not include them here for obvious reasons.

tom