A visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau - Page 2

Gotthard Heinrici · 21-11-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by marcus69x

I would love to go. One day I will, but when.....who knows.

Just out curiosity, did you notice any birds singing when you went?

I havent been to Asuchwitz but I have been to Dachau and even though there are trees around there were no birds anywhere in the camp(it was Summer). Nature knows it was an evil place.

marcus69x · 21-11-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotthard Heinrici

I havent been to Asuchwitz but I have been to Dachau and even though there are trees around there were no birds anywhere in the camp(it was Summer). Nature knows it was an evil place.

Cheers Gotthard. I've just re-read the 'Auschwitz, is this true' thread, and it gave me a shiver. One day I'm gonna do the full tour, take a month out or something and see the lot. Then I'll be able to add my own testimony to this 'myth'.

But if Owens bird mates noticed birds, then it can't surely be true. I dunno, there's been so many conflicting responses on that thread, I just don't know anymore. My head hurts

marcus

Owen · 21-11-2007, 12:48 PM

Birds go quiet late summer as they moult into their new plumage.
When did you go Gerard?
What was the surrounding woodland?
Conifer or deciduous?
Coniferous woodland isn't the best bird habitat anyway.

Gotthard Heinrici · 21-11-2007, 01:58 PM

No Owen they were deciduous trees, I think. We went in Early June and it was a beautiful day. What was also noticable was that the courtyards were covered in Gravel with a complete absence of weeds. They have some gardening crew to get this place in order. I also saw an old woman break down in front of a large montage of Jewish prisoners, no doubt recognising someone she thought she knew.

Owen · 21-11-2007, 10:42 PM

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deciduous trees, I think. We went in Early June

Birdlife should've been busing breeding.
I still don't believe wildlife can pick up on human misery to the extent they avoid sites well after the event.

Gibbo · 22-11-2007, 09:41 AM

I went to Dachau in May 2005 & not only did I hear birds singing all round the camp, but I saw a blackbird near the crematorium.

Gotthard Heinrici · 22-11-2007, 09:56 AM

Ok, Ok!!! So there is wildlife around Dachau!!! The day I went it was exceptionally quiet and I thought it was unusual and I commented on the fact. Obviously Dachau is a veritable Hotbed of Nature that is obvious to all except me!!!!!

Christos · 04-12-2007, 10:43 AM

I think everyone should make it their business to familarize with, if not see for themselves, Aushwitz-Birkenau......I'm told that only foriegn vistors to Poland are interested.......few if any Polish people visit the site.....not quite sure why, it's somethign my Aunty told me after 5 visits and a Polish husband!

The Aviator · 04-12-2007, 11:26 AM

I don't think that can be seen as disrespectful in any way Christos.
Virtually everywhere in the world takes their local attractions for granted.
Tourism is founded on novelties and differences.

Christos · 19-12-2007, 10:08 PM

Yes indeed....The people of DARWIN have this exact attude to their own sites...locals rarely go up to see it, only tourists and ex-servicemen show any interset, or buffs like me...

21-11-2007, 12:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 8,687	Birds go quiet late summer as they moult into their new plumage. When did you go Gerard? What was the surrounding woodland? Conifer or deciduous? Coniferous woodland isn't the best bird habitat anyway. Last edited by Owen; 21-11-2007 at 12:51 PM.

21-11-2007, 01:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,495	No Owen they were deciduous trees, I think. We went in Early June and it was a beautiful day. What was also noticable was that the courtyards were covered in Gravel with a complete absence of weeds. They have some gardening crew to get this place in order. I also saw an old woman break down in front of a large montage of Jewish prisoners, no doubt recognising someone she thought she knew. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino)

22-11-2007, 09:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
Gibbo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 312	I went to Dachau in May 2005 & not only did I hear birds singing all round the camp, but I saw a blackbird near the crematorium. __________________ Martin

22-11-2007, 09:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,495	Ok, Ok!!! So there is wildlife around Dachau!!! The day I went it was exceptionally quiet and I thought it was unusual and I commented on the fact. Obviously Dachau is a veritable Hotbed of Nature that is obvious to all except me!!!!! __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino)

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04-12-2007, 10:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
Christos Discharged Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 485	I think everyone should make it their business to familarize with, if not see for themselves, Aushwitz-Birkenau......I'm told that only foriegn vistors to Poland are interested.......few if any Polish people visit the site.....not quite sure why, it's somethign my Aunty told me after 5 visits and a Polish husband!

04-12-2007, 11:26 AM	#19 (permalink)
The Aviator Discharged Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth Posts: 288	I don't think that can be seen as disrespectful in any way Christos. Virtually everywhere in the world takes their local attractions for granted. Tourism is founded on novelties and differences.

19-12-2007, 10:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Christos Discharged Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 485	Yes indeed....The people of DARWIN have this exact attude to their own sites...locals rarely go up to see it, only tourists and ex-servicemen show any interset, or buffs like me...

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