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Old 18-04-2008, 11:59 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The place where no birds sing? North of Caen. No birds at all, None... Only the sweet sickly stench of death. The poor little things would have perished anyway...And I am deadly serious.
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Well there are 2 schools of thought here: The "Humanities" group which believes that nature is affected by evil and will not go near it and the Sciences School which believes that nature is nature and that evil is not something that it notices. This massive chasm between the two schools has never been breached and will continue to rage across these boards for many, many, many years to come.

With the noted exception that those of who have been there and who have seen the birds completely discredit the theory that birds NEVER go to Auschwitz. They do.

It does not however discredit the individual exeriences of those who go there and do not see the birds. There are reasons for it, several possible ones I gave in my other post.

If an individual wants to believe that they have seen no birds because of the evil of the place and that enhances their experience, then so be it. If someone does not see birds because they choose not to or because they don't know where to look, then so be it.

But there is a bottom line here and the minute I saw that duck sitting in one of the ditches inside the fence line I found out where it was. I knew where to look to find birds. And birds there are a plenty, in SOME places within Auschwitz.

Of course, if someone wanted to argue against my credibility as a reliable witness to the presence of avian life then I guess that's another matter. After all, I didn't get any pictures of birds when I was there....


I'm done 'raging' now as I agree with Herr Heinrichi that much like the 'chicken or the egg' argument, this is perhaps an issue that will never see complete agreement, and will live on forever.

-EB, card carrying member of the Audobon Society

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