Italy 1944-45

wasman · 29-08-2004, 02:10 PM

My dad served with the 2nd Battalion North Stafford Regiment in Italy from January 44 onwards, he landed at Anzio and fought his way up the country finally ending his service in Austria, what I would like to know if anyone can help is what formation badge he would have worn, what army he would have been in , ie 1st, 2nd etc. He fought alongside the American 5th army, places I remember him mentioning are, Salerno, Palermo, Naples, Monte Cassino and Rome.
Any help at all would be great, I am trying to put together my Dads history and at the moment am a bit lost.

DirtyDick · 29-08-2004, 03:41 PM

I think that would be 2nd Infantry Brigade, 1st Division, which landed at Anzio.

Richard

ourbill · 13-03-2006, 10:59 PM

wasman

Do you still need any help with your search?

Roger

Arthur · 22-03-2006, 04:24 PM

Hi,
Information from 'Joslen's O.B.A.T. 1939-45'

From January 1944 the 1st Inf Division served under the following higher formations:
- 20/01/44 15th Army Group
20/01/44-21/05/44 6th U.S. Corps
22/05/44-30/06/44 5th U.S. Army
01/07/44-31/07/44 5th Corps
01/08/44-05/08/44 8th Army
05/08/44-16/01/45 13th Corps
17/01/45-27/01/45 H.Q. A.A.I.
28/01/45-01/02/45 G.H.Q. M.E.F.
*02/02/45-31/08/45 H.Q. P & T.J.

* 06/06/45-08/07/45 & 30/07/45 they served with the 9th Army under H.Q. P & T.J.

Regards
Arthur

John Vincent McLoughlin · 06-02-2007, 11:56 PM

Hello Arthur,
I have actually been trying, in vain, to contact old comrades of the 2nd North Staffs, as my dad was in their Middlesex machine gun support platoon and, like you, I´ve been trying to research my dad´s experiences.
I have maps of the areas they went trhough and details of the Battalion´s movements north of Florence. What do you know about your dad?
John McLoughlin.

ourbill · 15-02-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Vincent McLoughlin

Hello Arthur,
I have actually been trying, in vain, to contact old comrades of the 2nd North Staffs, as my dad was in their Middlesex machine gun support platoon and, like you, I´ve been trying to research my dad´s experiences.
I have maps of the areas they went trhough and details of the Battalion´s movements north of Florence. What do you know about your dad?
John McLoughlin.

Hello John, missed this one with ref. to North Staffs. My father-in-law was with the 9th North Staffs till he transfered to the 51st RTR in May 1941. After training he went to North Africa(Tunisia), and Italy. I was wondering where you got the maps you mention? I've been trying for ages. I will have to check some of my books before I can say where 2 North Staffs went in Italy in detail, but I suppose you already know. 51 RTR were at Monte Cassino(Hitler Line) and on the Gothic Line.

John Vincent McLoughlin · 23-02-2007, 09:01 PM

I´m new to this forum game and am not sure how to address you - "Ourbill"?
I have the maps from the book "History of the First Division", printed in Cairo 1945.
How do I e-mail you directly?

ourbill · 24-02-2007, 07:10 PM

Good day John

Sent you a couple of e-mails. Should work out OK.

Kiwiwriter · 26-02-2007, 06:22 PM

Try "The War North of Rome," by a fella named Brooks. It's fairly definitive on that bloody mess. You'll get good background on the fighting there.

29-08-2004, 03:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newark, NJ, and Christchurch, NZ Posts: 2,431	A source on that campaign... Try "The War North of Rome," by a fella named Brooks. It's fairly definitive on that bloody mess. You'll get good background on the fighting there. __________________ "My intensity is intense." -- Roger Clemens "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -- Winston Churchill. "I am not a hero. The heroes are all dead. I am a survivor." -- Sgt. William Guarnere, Easy Company, 506th Parachute Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Check out my little contributions to World War II history at my web pages: World War II Plus 55 or http://davidhlippman.wildbillguarnere.com

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29-08-2004, 02:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
wasman Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atherton Posts: 48	My dad served with the 2nd Battalion North Stafford Regiment in Italy from January 44 onwards, he landed at Anzio and fought his way up the country finally ending his service in Austria, what I would like to know if anyone can help is what formation badge he would have worn, what army he would have been in , ie 1st, 2nd etc. He fought alongside the American 5th army, places I remember him mentioning are, Salerno, Palermo, Naples, Monte Cassino and Rome. Any help at all would be great, I am trying to put together my Dads history and at the moment am a bit lost.

13-03-2006, 10:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
ourbill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lichfield, Staffordshire Posts: 238	wasman Do you still need any help with your search? Roger

22-03-2006, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Arthur Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 98	Hi, Information from 'Joslen's O.B.A.T. 1939-45' From January 1944 the 1st Inf Division served under the following higher formations: - 20/01/44 15th Army Group 20/01/44-21/05/44 6th U.S. Corps 22/05/44-30/06/44 5th U.S. Army 01/07/44-31/07/44 5th Corps 01/08/44-05/08/44 8th Army 05/08/44-16/01/45 13th Corps 17/01/45-27/01/45 H.Q. A.A.I. 28/01/45-01/02/45 G.H.Q. M.E.F. 02/02/45-31/08/45 H.Q. P & T.J. 06/06/45-08/07/45 & 30/07/45 they served with the 9th Army under H.Q. P & T.J. Regards Arthur

06-02-2007, 11:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
John Vincent McLoughlin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5	Hello Arthur, I have actually been trying, in vain, to contact old comrades of the 2nd North Staffs, as my dad was in their Middlesex machine gun support platoon and, like you, I´ve been trying to research my dad´s experiences. I have maps of the areas they went trhough and details of the Battalion´s movements north of Florence. What do you know about your dad? John McLoughlin.

23-02-2007, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
John Vincent McLoughlin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5	I´m new to this forum game and am not sure how to address you - "Ourbill"? I have the maps from the book "History of the First Division", printed in Cairo 1945. How do I e-mail you directly?

24-02-2007, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
ourbill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lichfield, Staffordshire Posts: 238	Good day John Sent you a couple of e-mails. Should work out OK.

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