Tracing A British Soldier Buried In Italy

Andrew Hesketh · 05-12-2005, 11:15 PM

I am looking into a Stanley James Payne of the 2nd Battery, 1st Lt AA Regiment, who is buried in Ancona War Cemetery.

His date of death is given by CWGC as 10/12/1942. I am by no means an expert on this but I was under the impression that British forces were not in Italy prior to 1943. If this is true can anyone help explain why Gunner Payne lies in Ancona?

Any suggestions or help appreciated. Thanks.

MalcolmII · 06-12-2005, 12:30 AM

Possibly a POW from North Africa.

Aye
MalcolmII

Andrew Hesketh · 06-12-2005, 02:28 PM

Thanks Malcolm. That suggestion makes sense.

Could anyone offer advice on how to track down whether and when a serviceman was made a POW?

Glosters · 06-12-2005, 07:44 PM

The Times 1 October 1942

Prisoners of War ....

Payne, Gnr S.J.

Regards
Steve

Andrew Hesketh · 07-12-2005, 03:25 PM

Glosters,

Thank you very much for checking that and posting the information. Brilliant!

2ndArmySigs · 04-03-2006, 11:27 AM

Andrew, great pity I did not know about your request on Ancona. Just been there to photograph the headstone of a Sandbach man captured ion N Africa and died at Macerata prison camp, originally buried in Macerata Civil Cemetery (POW plot) and moved in Jan 1945. A request to CWGC may fill in the details for you.
Richard Howells, also known as greenwoodman in another life!

Raymondo · 23-07-2006, 10:37 AM

I am planning a trip to Ancona and Casserta in September and would be happy to take photos for anyone. I would also like some help with a couple of things. My uncle Charles Samuel Frank Ashen, Sergeant Royal Engineers No 1896949, was killed on 16/12/45 and is buried at Casserta. This date seems to be after the war ended, any ideas how I could find out what exactly happened to him?
Raymondo

05-12-2005, 11:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Andrew Hesketh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	I am looking into a Stanley James Payne of the 2nd Battery, 1st Lt AA Regiment, who is buried in Ancona War Cemetery. His date of death is given by CWGC as 10/12/1942. I am by no means an expert on this but I was under the impression that British forces were not in Italy prior to 1943. If this is true can anyone help explain why Gunner Payne lies in Ancona? Any suggestions or help appreciated. Thanks. __________________ Remembering the lads of Tibshelf, Derbyshire, who served in the two World Wars. http://www.derbyshirelads.uwclub.net/

06-12-2005, 02:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andrew Hesketh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	Thanks Malcolm. That suggestion makes sense. Could anyone offer advice on how to track down whether and when a serviceman was made a POW? __________________ Remembering the lads of Tibshelf, Derbyshire, who served in the two World Wars. http://www.derbyshirelads.uwclub.net/

07-12-2005, 03:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Andrew Hesketh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	Glosters, Thank you very much for checking that and posting the information. Brilliant! __________________ Remembering the lads of Tibshelf, Derbyshire, who served in the two World Wars. http://www.derbyshirelads.uwclub.net/

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06-12-2005, 12:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
MalcolmII Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 209	Possibly a POW from North Africa. Aye MalcolmII

06-12-2005, 07:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Glosters Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 46	The Times 1 October 1942 Prisoners of War .... Payne, Gnr S.J. Regards Steve

04-03-2006, 11:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
2ndArmySigs Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 1	Andrew, great pity I did not know about your request on Ancona. Just been there to photograph the headstone of a Sandbach man captured ion N Africa and died at Macerata prison camp, originally buried in Macerata Civil Cemetery (POW plot) and moved in Jan 1945. A request to CWGC may fill in the details for you. Richard Howells, also known as greenwoodman in another life!

23-07-2006, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Raymondo Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monmouth, South Wales Posts: 1	I am planning a trip to Ancona and Casserta in September and would be happy to take photos for anyone. I would also like some help with a couple of things. My uncle Charles Samuel Frank Ashen, Sergeant Royal Engineers No 1896949, was killed on 16/12/45 and is buried at Casserta. This date seems to be after the war ended, any ideas how I could find out what exactly happened to him? Raymondo

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