Adriatic Coast, Italy.

Owen · 08-09-2006, 10:39 AM

Who held the line on this side of Italy when 8th Army moved over to Cassino to break The Hitler Line?

Did that side of the Italian Theatre go quiet?

Please enlighten me.

Owen · 15-05-2007, 01:06 AM

Read in the 5th Div history the other day that the Adriatic Front was left "as a thinly held Corps front".
Anyone any idea what Corps?

Kyt · 15-05-2007, 01:49 AM

What dates are we looking for (sorry, Italian campaign a bit of a weakness) - I've seen several maps around the web with dispositions but need period.

Owen · 15-05-2007, 10:01 AM

May 44.
I too have looked long and hard but all reference to seems to be Anzio & Cassino and the linking up of the two Armes, 5th & 8th.

Kyt · 15-05-2007, 10:19 AM

Is 11th May OK?

EDIT: finally found the link for the map I'd downloaded earlier:

Maps Main Menu

Owen · 15-05-2007, 10:22 AM

It was V Corps

Battlefront - Producers of fine metal and resin miniatures

Same map Kyt?

Kyt · 15-05-2007, 10:22 AM

Owen · 15-05-2007, 10:29 AM

Everything clicking in now, thanks for the kick start Kyt.

On April 22nd, when the relief of the Canadians had been completed, Fourth and Tenth Indian Divisions held the entire Adriatic front between the sea and the Maiellas, a distance of 30 miles, All SIX brigades were in the line.

A New Divisional Flash Appears

With 4th, 8th & 10th Indian Divs fighting in Italy anyone know how many casualties they suffered?

Gerry Chester · 15-05-2007, 05:26 PM

Hi Owen,

Although details of casualties are not recorded, of interest is the following extract from The Tiger Triumphs, the Story of Three Great Divisions in Italy
Publisher: H.M. Stationery Office for the Government of India
Copyright: 1946, 212 pp.

” In view of the possibility of an enemy withdrawal on the Adriatic front, both Indian divisions undertook to pin down their adversaries and to keep them under strict observation. During the last days of May, heavy German transport movements to the north were reported. Attempts to explore enemy positions, however, led to clashes which proved the enemy still to be holding in force. A combined patrol of Manchesters and Central India Horse was cut up on a risky expedition among the foothills of the Maiellas. Royal Sussex, on 7th Brigade's front, and both Camerons and Frontier Force Regiment on 11th Brigade's front, ran into trouble when they attempted to probe too intimately.

At the end of May, a regrouping of forces in the Adriatic sector occurred. The Italian Utili Division arrived to relieve Fourth Indian Division on the Orsogna front. Their advance parties came forward with bands playing and with flags flying. The German artillery greeted such advertisement of intentions with a heavy shoot which interfered to some extent with the relief. Fourth Indian Division side-slipped on to the coastal sector, and on June 4th relieved Tenth Indian Division, which left at once for Central Italy. Fourth Divisional Artillery remained behind Orsogna in support of the Italians, while the guns of the Third Carpathian Division covered the Indians on the coast. A few of the old hands still remained who remembered the Carpathian Brigade which served beside them on the drive into Cyrenaica in 1941.“

Cheers, Gerry

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Owen · 15-05-2007, 11:23 PM

Thanks Gerry.
7 of those books available here.
AbeBooks: Search Results - The Tiger Triumphs, the Story of Three Great Divisions in Italy
Tempted to get one from India.

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Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	Adriatic Coast, Italy. Who held the line on this side of Italy when 8th Army moved over to Cassino to break The Hitler Line? Did that side of the Italian Theatre go quiet? Please enlighten me.

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Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	Everything clicking in now, thanks for the kick start Kyt. On April 22nd, when the relief of the Canadians had been completed, Fourth and Tenth Indian Divisions held the entire Adriatic front between the sea and the Maiellas, a distance of 30 miles, All SIX brigades were in the line. A New Divisional Flash Appears With 4th, 8th & 10th Indian Divs fighting in Italy anyone know how many casualties they suffered? Last edited by Owen; 15-05-2007 at 11:03 AM.

15-05-2007, 11:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	Thanks Gerry. 7 of those books available here. AbeBooks: Search Results - The Tiger Triumphs, the Story of Three Great Divisions in Italy Tempted to get one from India. Last edited by Owen; 15-05-2007 at 11:27 PM.

15-05-2007, 01:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	Read in the 5th Div history the other day that the Adriatic Front was left "as a thinly held Corps front". Anyone any idea what Corps?

15-05-2007, 10:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	May 44. I too have looked long and hard but all reference to seems to be Anzio & Cassino and the linking up of the two Armes, 5th & 8th.

15-05-2007, 10:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,314	It was V Corps Battlefront - Producers of fine metal and resin miniatures Same map Kyt?

15-05-2007, 05:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Originally Wallasey, Cheshire - Now a world-wide wanderer Posts: 847	Hi Owen, Although details of casualties are not recorded, of interest is the following extract from The Tiger Triumphs, the Story of Three Great Divisions in Italy Publisher: H.M. Stationery Office for the Government of India Copyright: 1946, 212 pp. ” In view of the possibility of an enemy withdrawal on the Adriatic front, both Indian divisions undertook to pin down their adversaries and to keep them under strict observation. During the last days of May, heavy German transport movements to the north were reported. Attempts to explore enemy positions, however, led to clashes which proved the enemy still to be holding in force. A combined patrol of Manchesters and Central India Horse was cut up on a risky expedition among the foothills of the Maiellas. Royal Sussex, on 7th Brigade's front, and both Camerons and Frontier Force Regiment on 11th Brigade's front, ran into trouble when they attempted to probe too intimately. At the end of May, a regrouping of forces in the Adriatic sector occurred. The Italian Utili Division arrived to relieve Fourth Indian Division on the Orsogna front. Their advance parties came forward with bands playing and with flags flying. The German artillery greeted such advertisement of intentions with a heavy shoot which interfered to some extent with the relief. Fourth Indian Division side-slipped on to the coastal sector, and on June 4th relieved Tenth Indian Division, which left at once for Central Italy. Fourth Divisional Artillery remained behind Orsogna in support of the Italians, while the guns of the Third Carpathian Division covered the Indians on the coast. A few of the old hands still remained who remembered the Carpathian Brigade which served beside them on the drive into Cyrenaica in 1941.“ Cheers, Gerry .

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