Market Garden

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(Reverend Bob @ Jan 30 2006, 05:46 PM) [post=45090]Attack!! Attack!! Attack!!
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That's what I am talking about! Imagine the looks on the P-47 pilots faces when they would see German tanks flushed out of cover heading up the road. You get to beat German armor like it was a red-headed-retarded-stepchild and still be home at the base in the rear for a nice hot meal and a shower withing an hour. And to think they paid you to fly those things!

(spidge @ Jan 17 2006, 05:08 AM) [post=44458]I was reading this the other day and it is quite an interesting version from another perspective of a fighter pilot in the MG operation..

From: http://samilitaryhistory.org/4/d04aprne.html (South African Military History)

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Wow Geoff, that's quite a spin on things. If the Germans knew, then it was doomed from the outset. But either way, that Browning looks like a prophet. Interesting post.

[No.9]

Err.....thank you again mos, flattery will get you anywhere. Seriously though, I was not dismissing Vercingetorix, just asking a question - or attempting to. Getorix was an outstanding individual. Militarily, as you say he unified numerous chieftains and got co-operation in putting forward strategies quite radical for people who mostly only knew assault by 'human wave'. (Hermann Arminius did the same some 50 years later with the Germans.)

Getorix withdrew to Alesia which was his last stand, but I see the great curio about this final episode was the way Caesar laid siege. He built an extensive and elaborate encirclement, and then, knowing of or in anticipation of an attack by relief forces, built a second elaborate encirclement placing the Romans between the two. I can't think of a similar occurrence anywhere else, but would love to hear of any.

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[Kitty]

Kind of caught between a rock and hard place, you could say. Sorry, considering when that happened it shoudl probably be caught between Scylla and Charybdis. Spelt those wrong, didn't I?
Sapper, to answer your question, I don't think we are saying that Market Garden shouldn't have taken place. I know I'm not. I think we are just questioning the planning that went into it, and whether Arnhem should have been hit as well as the other two towns, whose names I cannot spell just now...
Like I said, without the other unforeseen factors coming into the equation Arnhem could have been recovered. But it was not to be, and maybe they should have stuck to two targets instead of three when there was a lack of transport/bomber aircraft to tow in the gliders. Just a thought. And as to taking a rest? I don't chuffing think so! If they're running away shoot them in the arse!



P.S. No. 9, your time is up! Sorry, it had to be said.

[angie999]

It seems to me very confusing to have two almost identical threads running on Market Garden, both of which are tending to drift off topic quite a lot.

Do you think this one should be closed?

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(angie999 @ Jan 31 2006, 08:34 AM) [post=45115]It seems to me very confusing to have two almost identical threads running on Market Garden, both of which are tending to drift off topic quite a lot.

Do you think this one should be closed?
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Yes it is confusing. I say close this one myself.

[Gnomey]

Done.