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Old 10-12-2006, 05:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If France had been ignored

If Britain and France hadn't declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland, would Hitler have forgone an invasion to the west and simply invaded the Soviet Union earlier, or would he have still felt sufficiently threatened by France to warrant a campaign on that front?

An even more interesting scenario for me is that I think Hitler could have invaded the Soviet Union without first dealing with France. If he had turned his attention elsewhere the French would probably have maintained a defensive posture and continued their campaign of lip-service against German aggression. Britain might have been more willing to put up a fight, but neither Britain or France really had the means to mount a serious offensive campaign. And I can't think that France and Britain would choose to form an alliance with Russia after Russian intentions were made clear by their invasion of both Finland and Poland.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have outher question "If there wasn't war would this forum exist ?
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When the Winter War was being fought, France and Britain were planning to send troops to aid Finland.
The Winter War finished before they could be sent.
Now, imagine if the USSR was fighting French, British and Finnish troops then Hitler decided to launch Barbarossa in 1940.
How different it would all be.
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wonder if in part, Chamberlains appeasment policy was the threat from Stalin
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To redefine a bit, What if France had attacked Germany while most of the German equipment was still in Poland?

Most likely, a very short war with a quick German loss.

Although, the French would have been blooded.
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To redefine a bit, What if France had attacked Germany while most of the German equipment was still in Poland?

Most likely, a very short war with a quick German loss.

Although, the French would have been blooded.
If only!
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To redefine a bit, What if France had attacked Germany while most of the German equipment was still in Poland?

Most likely, a very short war with a quick German loss.

Although, the French would have been blooded.
Hahaha do you really though that could happan?
Germans are not so stuped to let the border open.And with what france could attack? They have some trashcans that they usualy call tanks.
Mates...sometimes i could see that you really...how could i say you dont aprove the heroism,bavery,profesionalism and the discipline of the german soldiers it is a clear fact that the germans had THE BEST and highly trained soldiers.The Prusian's know how to fight and how to win a war it is in there blood.
I have one advice for you "Respect your enemy ,like you respect your ally".
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Although, the French would have been blooded.
I have a feeling that due to their procedures and their outdated command and battle theory, they would have been blooded all right.

Blooded, Bloodied and dead.
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After war was officially declared it took a further nine months for Hitler to turn his attentions towards France. During this period, the Allies defensive policy would suggest that everyone was still secretly hoping for peace; what with the memories of the Great War still being very fresh.

So; even if they (France & Britain) had been in a position to attack Germany (which was doubtful), I don't think they would have. I think Hitler realised this too. The days of positive French aggression had beeen sadly lacking since the death of Napoleon!!

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After war was officially declared it took a further nine months for Hitler to turn his attentions towards France. During this period, the Allies defensive policy would suggest that everyone was still secretly hoping for peace; what with the memories of the Great War still being very fresh.

So; even if they (France & Britain) had been in a position to attack Germany (which was doubtful), I don't think they would have. I think Hitler realised this too. The days of positive French aggression had beeen sadly lacking since the death of Napoleon!!

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Really good post Millsy thank you.I want also to add that after the attack of Poland,England declared war to Germany.And this mean that Germans were ready for a posible advance of French and English troops.
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