RAMC Major KIA 1943 on local memorial but not on CWGC

The Guardroom · 06-02-2008, 09:27 PM

Researching the local parish war memorial at Binfield , Berks and included under the date of 1943 is a Major A. BURTON. WILKES RAMC.
On searching the cwgc site under many ways of spelling name no record comes back.
I have also done a goggle search and nothing.
Are there any RAMC experts that could help shine any light on exact date and info on this man.
Many thanks,
Alan

The Guardroom · 06-02-2008, 09:31 PM

spidge · 06-02-2008, 10:38 PM

Hi Alan,

This may clear it up!

There is only one Burton WILKES on the London Gazette, and that is Alfred Burton Wilkes (107002)

However, Capt. A B. Wilkes (107002) relinquished his commission on account of ill-health, 15th Dec. 1943.
http://beta.gazettes-online.co.uk/Vi...east=&similar=

So if he died after relinquishing his commission he won't be on the CWGC, even if he is remembered on a local memorial.

Cheers

Geoff

WotNoChad? · 06-02-2008, 10:49 PM

Blimey that is odd. Did similar and partial searches and no-one RAMC turned up at all.

Couldn't help but notice that the bottom name (a Guardsman) is also Wilkes. A chance, perhaps, that the Wilkes on the end of A.Burton is a slip of the mason's mallet?

e2a: Writing this up while spidge was solving it...

Harry Ree · 06-02-2008, 11:54 PM

It looks like the two Wilkes were brothers.The Major was named Burton after his father.The Guardsman was not named as such but the CWGC names his father as xxx Burton Wilkes.It looks like the father and the Major shared the second name of Burton and the surname was Wilkes and not Burton-Wilkes.

Owen · 07-02-2008, 12:26 AM

Just a heads up, Cotterell on the memorial is actually Cotterall on cwgc
CWGC :: Casualty Details

see 3rd KOH in Java thread

The Guardroom · 07-02-2008, 09:49 AM

Thanks all. I think Spidges comments could well be correct. As another name appears on memorial for 1923 which was not related to a KIA or DOW in either war. Infact the man died of TB after servicing in the RFC. It is said it is a result of his service in the RFC and flying to high ???
Perhaps Burton wilkes relinquished his commisson due to injury in service and later died of them whilst a civilian and the village wnated him to still be remembered ??

izzy · 30-03-2008, 09:12 AM

see if your main libary has copies of the lancet with him being a medical man there may be an obituary

chrisharley9 · 30-05-2008, 12:12 AM

The Times of 1 Jan 1944 gives his date of death as 29 Dec 1943 - as he was retired through ill health 15th Dec 1943 I think highly likely that his death was directly linked to his military service - this would entitle him to a CWGC commemoration - anyone know if he is buried at Binfield?

Please PM me if anyone would like a copy of the death notice

Chris

chrisharley9 · 31-05-2008, 10:19 AM

Via the Great War forum I will take this case forward as an non commemorated casualty of the Second World War

Chris

06-02-2008, 09:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Guardroom Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 51	RAMC Major KIA 1943 on local memorial but not on CWGC Researching the local parish war memorial at Binfield , Berks and included under the date of 1943 is a Major A. BURTON. WILKES RAMC. On searching the cwgc site under many ways of spelling name no record comes back. I have also done a goggle search and nothing. Are there any RAMC experts that could help shine any light on exact date and info on this man. Many thanks, Alan

06-02-2008, 10:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
spidge Legendary Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8,047	Hi Alan, This may clear it up! There is only one Burton WILKES on the London Gazette, and that is Alfred Burton Wilkes (107002) However, Capt. A B. Wilkes (107002) relinquished his commission on account of ill-health, 15th Dec. 1943. http://beta.gazettes-online.co.uk/Vi...east=&similar= So if he died after relinquishing his commission he won't be on the CWGC, even if he is remembered on a local memorial. Cheers Geoff __________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm

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06-02-2008, 10:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
WotNoChad? Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 170	Blimey that is odd. Did similar and partial searches and no-one RAMC turned up at all. Couldn't help but notice that the bottom name (a Guardsman) is also Wilkes. A chance, perhaps, that the Wilkes on the end of A.Burton is a slip of the mason's mallet? e2a: Writing this up while spidge was solving it...

06-02-2008, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Harry Ree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 609	It looks like the two Wilkes were brothers.The Major was named Burton after his father.The Guardsman was not named as such but the CWGC names his father as xxx Burton Wilkes.It looks like the father and the Major shared the second name of Burton and the surname was Wilkes and not Burton-Wilkes.

07-02-2008, 12:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 8,995	Just a heads up, Cotterell on the memorial is actually Cotterall on cwgc CWGC :: Casualty Details see 3rd KOH in Java thread

07-02-2008, 09:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
The Guardroom Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 51	Thanks all. I think Spidges comments could well be correct. As another name appears on memorial for 1923 which was not related to a KIA or DOW in either war. Infact the man died of TB after servicing in the RFC. It is said it is a result of his service in the RFC and flying to high ??? Perhaps Burton wilkes relinquished his commisson due to injury in service and later died of them whilst a civilian and the village wnated him to still be remembered ??

30-03-2008, 09:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
izzy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 19	see if your main libary has copies of the lancet with him being a medical man there may be an obituary

30-05-2008, 12:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
chrisharley9 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: March In The Isle of Ely Posts: 64	The Times of 1 Jan 1944 gives his date of death as 29 Dec 1943 - as he was retired through ill health 15th Dec 1943 I think highly likely that his death was directly linked to his military service - this would entitle him to a CWGC commemoration - anyone know if he is buried at Binfield? Please PM me if anyone would like a copy of the death notice Chris

31-05-2008, 10:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
chrisharley9 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: March In The Isle of Ely Posts: 64	Via the Great War forum I will take this case forward as an non commemorated casualty of the Second World War Chris

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