Z Force

Warlord · 09-10-2007, 07:10 PM

As far as my knowledge goes, there was a Commonwealth commando unit called Z Force, which among others, made an antishipping raid on Singapore Harbor. Can anyone help me get deeper on the subject, including if this (these) operations had anything to do with the Royal Marines raid and the use of SOE´s Sleeping Beauty?

Hugh MacLean · 09-10-2007, 07:26 PM

Z Force carried out two famous raids on Singapore Harbour. Operation Jawick (September 1943) and Operation Rimau (1944) both raids were commanded by Major Ivan Lyon of the Gordon Highlanders. Lyon was killed during Rimau.

The Sleeping Beauty was used in the Rimau raid: BBC - History - British Special Operations Executive (SOE): Tools and Gadgets Gallery

Some info here:BBC - WW2 People's War - The Jaywick Operation

and here: Z Special Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
Hugh

Warlord · 09-10-2007, 07:42 PM

RIMAU was when the commandos got caught on their way out, hunted down from island to island, and the captured survivors eventually executed a few days before the war´s end?

Hugh MacLean · 09-10-2007, 08:33 PM

Yes that is correct. The 10 who were captured were beheaded by the Japs a month before the end of the war. MINDEF - History - 1944 - Operation Rimau (Volume 8 Issue 10)

Regards
Hugh

Warlord · 09-10-2007, 08:45 PM

Thanks for the information.

Care to join, anyone else?

von Poop · 09-10-2007, 10:09 PM

So was 'Z Force' named in memory of 'Force Z'?
Welcome to the website of the Force Z Survivors Association

Doc · 10-10-2007, 09:25 AM

There was also an earlier "Z Force", fighting in the Middle East in the 1920s-- It is most famous for having some of the earliest UK airplane ambulances deployed (DH-9s). Doc

Warlord · 11-10-2007, 01:13 AM

Fighting in the Middle East in the ´20s? Palestine, perhaps?

Doc · 11-10-2007, 08:15 AM

RAF "Z" Force was a relatively successful effort at "air policing" which took place in British Somaliland in 1920. It was an attempt to put down an uprising by Mohammed Ahmed Ibn Seyyid Abdullah, called the "Mad Mullah", who was originally based in Sudan. Doc

spidge · 11-10-2007, 10:52 AM

Z Special Unit

Z Special Unit was a top secret unit formed in 1942 as a special operations group to gather intelligence and carry out sabotage right at the heart of the enemy. Its members were sworn to secrecy about their operations, and were highly trained as silent and effective killers.

More here halfway down the page:

Two Events of 1943

Also:

Z Special Unit (sometimes called Z Force), WW2

09-10-2007, 07:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Warlord Veteran wannabe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Land of Eternal Spring Posts: 212	Z Force As far as my knowledge goes, there was a Commonwealth commando unit called Z Force, which among others, made an antishipping raid on Singapore Harbor. Can anyone help me get deeper on the subject, including if this (these) operations had anything to do with the Royal Marines raid and the use of SOE´s Sleeping Beauty?

09-10-2007, 07:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hugh MacLean Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 71	Z Force carried out two famous raids on Singapore Harbour. Operation Jawick (September 1943) and Operation Rimau (1944) both raids were commanded by Major Ivan Lyon of the Gordon Highlanders. Lyon was killed during Rimau. The Sleeping Beauty was used in the Rimau raid: BBC - History - British Special Operations Executive (SOE): Tools and Gadgets Gallery Some info here:BBC - WW2 People's War - The Jaywick Operation and here: Z Special Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Regards Hugh Last edited by Hugh MacLean; 09-10-2007 at 07:29 PM.

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spidge Legendary Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,942	Z Special Unit Z Special Unit Z Special Unit was a top secret unit formed in 1942 as a special operations group to gather intelligence and carry out sabotage right at the heart of the enemy. Its members were sworn to secrecy about their operations, and were highly trained as silent and effective killers. More here halfway down the page: Two Events of 1943 Also: Z Special Unit (sometimes called Z Force), WW2 __________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm Last edited by spidge; 11-10-2007 at 10:56 AM.

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09-10-2007, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Warlord Veteran wannabe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Land of Eternal Spring Posts: 212	RIMAU was when the commandos got caught on their way out, hunted down from island to island, and the captured survivors eventually executed a few days before the war´s end?

09-10-2007, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hugh MacLean Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 71	Yes that is correct. The 10 who were captured were beheaded by the Japs a month before the end of the war. MINDEF - History - 1944 - Operation Rimau (Volume 8 Issue 10) Regards Hugh

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Warlord Veteran wannabe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Land of Eternal Spring Posts: 212	Thanks for the information. Care to join, anyone else?

10-10-2007, 09:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
Doc Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 105	There was also an earlier "Z Force", fighting in the Middle East in the 1920s-- It is most famous for having some of the earliest UK airplane ambulances deployed (DH-9s). Doc

11-10-2007, 01:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Warlord Veteran wannabe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Land of Eternal Spring Posts: 212	Fighting in the Middle East in the ´20s? Palestine, perhaps?

11-10-2007, 08:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Doc Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 105	RAF "Z" Force was a relatively successful effort at "air policing" which took place in British Somaliland in 1920. It was an attempt to put down an uprising by Mohammed Ahmed Ibn Seyyid Abdullah, called the "Mad Mullah", who was originally based in Sudan. Doc

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