special forces in paris

allanair · 09-04-2004, 10:04 PM

does any one have any information on a battle that took place in paris in either 1943-1944at Notre Dame Cathedral,when the ss decided to destroy it,but they did not recon on british special forces being there before hand resulting in all the ss troops being slaughtered.

Regards Allan Wisener.

Paul Johnson · 27-04-2004, 09:19 AM

I have never heard of this before. Where does your information come from? I think you may need to check your sources.

Regards

PAUL JOHNSON

allanair · 01-05-2004, 06:53 PM

Paul,
I heard this story from a friend whose brother was in the sas unit at the time,as far as I know there is a commemorative plaque on the cathedral, having never visited france I would not know if there is any truth in the story but I could not understand why any one would lie about such a thing. Unfortunately the sources are dead now,I know the name but cannot post it for obvious reasons that is why I am trying to find out as much as possible about this incident. the french resistance was also involved. maby another battle forgotten about because of the slaughter that took place I dont know.

allan wisener

angie999 · 02-05-2004, 12:27 PM

There was some shoting in and around Notre Dame during the service held there on the day after liberation. De Gaulle was present and notably refused to take cover.

As far as I know, this was just sniping and not an attempt to destroy the cathedral. The French forces which fired back were, I believe, police and FFI. I have no knowledge of SAS involvement and I have never heard of SAS being deployed in the Paris area in WWII.

allanair · 30-05-2004, 12:16 AM

the latest information given to me was that there was an order given to destroy the notre dam cathedral by hitler. still have to find out what really happened. getting there

angie999 · 30-05-2004, 01:41 PM

Hitler did order the effective destruction of Paris in August 1944 rather than let it fall into allied hands. The German commander, von Choltitz, at great risk to himself and his family of reprisals, did not carry it out and negotiated the surrender of his forces to the Free French 2e Division Blindee.

A fascinating if sensational book on this is Is Paris Burning? by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre (1965), which was later made into a movie. I wish they would show it on TV, as it includes much genuine footage shot in Paris at the time.

27-04-2004, 09:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Johnson Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Herts - UK Posts: 85	I have never heard of this before. Where does your information come from? I think you may need to check your sources. Regards PAUL JOHNSON __________________ Frederick Arthur Lowry - ARP - Killed On Duty - 18th October 1940 Marguerite Beatrice Burge - WAAF - Murdered 30th January 1943. Iris Miriam Deeley - WAAF - Murdered 14th February 1944. Winifred Mary Evans - WAAF - Murdered 9th November 1944. http://www.stevenageatwar.com/

02-05-2004, 12:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
angie999 Very Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: near Bristol, UK Posts: 1,551	There was some shoting in and around Notre Dame during the service held there on the day after liberation. De Gaulle was present and notably refused to take cover. As far as I know, this was just sniping and not an attempt to destroy the cathedral. The French forces which fired back were, I believe, police and FFI. I have no knowledge of SAS involvement and I have never heard of SAS being deployed in the Paris area in WWII. __________________ Angie "History is lived forward but it is written in retrospect. We know the end before we consider the beginning and we can never wholly recapture what it was like to know the beginning only." C V Wedgewood

30-05-2004, 01:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
angie999 Very Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: near Bristol, UK Posts: 1,551	Hitler did order the effective destruction of Paris in August 1944 rather than let it fall into allied hands. The German commander, von Choltitz, at great risk to himself and his family of reprisals, did not carry it out and negotiated the surrender of his forces to the Free French 2e Division Blindee. A fascinating if sensational book on this is Is Paris Burning? by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre (1965), which was later made into a movie. I wish they would show it on TV, as it includes much genuine footage shot in Paris at the time. __________________ Angie "History is lived forward but it is written in retrospect. We know the end before we consider the beginning and we can never wholly recapture what it was like to know the beginning only." C V Wedgewood

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09-04-2004, 10:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
allanair Discharged Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 35	does any one have any information on a battle that took place in paris in either 1943-1944at Notre Dame Cathedral,when the ss decided to destroy it,but they did not recon on british special forces being there before hand resulting in all the ss troops being slaughtered. Regards Allan Wisener.

01-05-2004, 06:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
allanair Discharged Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 35	Paul, I heard this story from a friend whose brother was in the sas unit at the time,as far as I know there is a commemorative plaque on the cathedral, having never visited france I would not know if there is any truth in the story but I could not understand why any one would lie about such a thing. Unfortunately the sources are dead now,I know the name but cannot post it for obvious reasons that is why I am trying to find out as much as possible about this incident. the french resistance was also involved. maby another battle forgotten about because of the slaughter that took place I dont know. allan wisener

30-05-2004, 12:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
allanair Discharged Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 35	the latest information given to me was that there was an order given to destroy the notre dam cathedral by hitler. still have to find out what really happened. getting there

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