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Old 20-06-2006, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2nd Bn Seaforth Highlanders

Hello folks,
I'm trying to research my mothers uncle who was killed while serving with the 2nd Bn of the Seaforth highlanders. He is listed as being killed on the 16th of Sep. 1944 and is buried in St. Desir cemetery.
Does anyone know the actions of this unit at the time? Is there such a thing as war diaries available? I would be grateful for any help available.

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Old 20-06-2006, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Brian,
2nd Seaforths were in 152 Brigade, 51st Highland Division.
They had just fought at Le Harve in the days before your man's death.
I think they were at rest on that actual date. Maybe he died of wounds.
Will get stuck into this later bit rushed now.
Our member Richard (51st Highland) would be the best one to help but he's just gone on holiday.
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Old 21-06-2006, 11:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Brian might be worth contacting The Highlanders HQ.
http://www.army.mod.uk/highlanders/museums.htm

Regimental Museum of The Highlanders
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Thanks Owen,
I've just sent of for his service records this morning but even from your short posting sounds like you have some interesting info. I look forward to hearing from you.

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Brian bit of background to 51st Div here
http://spearhead1944.com/brpg/br1.htm


Only info I have on them is what I have in Patrick Delaforce's book. Monty's Highlanders.


Sorry not much to offer.
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Owen,

Anthing is more than what I've got! Thanks for your help.
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All I can find that mentions 2nd Seaforths for that time is here from the above mentioned book.pages 166,167 &169.
Operation Astonia.Le Havre 10-12th Sept 1944.
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152 Bde would attack at 2300 on 10th September.
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2nd Seaforth advance was delayed by the lack of cleared gaps but took all their objectives, with a total bag of 1244 prisoners by the end of the two day battle.
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Most of HD then spent two weeks in limbo in the Le Harve area
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After the two day battle Div HQ were back at Criquecot with 152 and 153 Bde resting nearby and 154 Bde left to garrison Le Harve.
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152 Brigade were lead brigade for the assault on Le Havre on the night of 10th/11th Sept 1944. 5th Camerons & 5th Seaforth being lead battalions. 2nd Seaforths were delayed due to lack of gapping in their assault area.. Some of the gapping equipment, i.e flails etc. did not arrive and of those that did, some were lost on mines. The bridge layers and Fascine carriers were failing in their attempt to make a crossing when the infantry should have been well into the defences.
After Le Havre, the divisional transport was taken away from 13th to 30th Sept. 2nd & 5th Seaforth went in Best, Holland 3rd October, 1944.

As suggested it is quite likely your man died of wounds.

I would personally write to the regimental Museum at Ardesier, as suggested by Owen, they have all the relevant histories on site. They have always been helpful to me.
sorry I do not have more info.
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Thanks for having a look 51Highland. I am waiting on the service records at the moment but I'll give the Museum a go as well.

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You will find that his service records do not really give specifics re places of actual fighting, they only give general info. I was a bit disappointed with my Fathers records.
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