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Old 15-05-2008, 08:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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These red wooden rounds are 'bulleted blank', used for training with automatic weapons like the Bren gun. There was an attachment in the flash-hider at the muzzle that shredded the wooden bullets to coarse sawdust on their way out. The purpose was to generate sufficient gas pressure in the barrel to drive the piston without launching a highly-lethal projectile.

I don't know what the propellant was, but I'd guess some form of nitro as I don't remember clouds of blackpowder smoke when these things were fired in the CCF cadet group I was a member of in the 1960s.

I would imagine that, fired from an unobstructed barrel, they'd be seriously dangerous up to many tens of yards and perhaps further.

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Old 15-05-2008, 09:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There is no way that a blank cartridge would have anything at all in the end . Blanks are crimped over so that when fired there is NO projectile , wooden or otherwise. Drill rounds have an imitation bullet but no charge or primer in the cartridge.Even without a projectile a blank should never be pointed at a person as there is always a certain amount of residue from the explosion emitted from the barrel.
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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There is no way that a blank cartridge would have anything at all in the end .
Sorry, but the bulleted blanks I've described did exist and were issued to cadet forces in the '60s. They came in the same size box as 300 round bandoliered 303 ball, and the box was stencilled 'Bulleted Blank', and the rounds had red-painted wooden bullets. I saw all this with my own eyes, and I saw them used in training as I described.
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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When I raised this subject, it was because we had discovered a soldiers hideout built into an earth bank. A big room under a bank with a door , and with coffee pot and chairs. All the comforts of home........
What made it so interesting was two things...The "German Smell" and these boxes of red wooden bullets?
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Old 15-05-2008, 10:03 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Ah, well, if they were certainly German rounds (rimless, 7.92x57) they probably wouldn't have worked in their light machine guns, because I think they were recoil rather than gas-operated. So they may have been 'ersatz' bullets or grenade blanks - see here:-
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Vot iss zis Cherman smell of vich you speak..?

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Old 15-05-2008, 10:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hi guys, me again. my ten cents worth. In the SA defence force we used a round with a red plastic head. We used them on the R1 rifles (FN) to set our sights. It was done over a very short distance 30 to 50 meters. We called them "rooi bekkies" direct translation wpuld be "red mouths". We also had a Regimental Sargeant Major that used to shoot the guys at the shooting range, if they took up a dangerous stance with the jacket rounds, with these rounds.
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Old 15-05-2008, 04:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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WITH THE 99TH DIVISION IN GERMANY -- PFC. George W. Akins of Mobile, Alabama, is glad that some of the cogs of Hitler's war machine are now being made of wood.
Akins, a member of the 99th Reconnaissance Troop, was bending over when a Kraut armed with a machine pistol burped a wooden slug into the seat of his pants.
When he recovered from the blow at his posterior, he was relieved to find his pants only full of splinters. The medics treated him for burns.

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Old 15-05-2008, 07:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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LOL! Jeff;
I too have heard of the red wood bullets. But I have never encountered them. At least not to my knowledge.
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