Lorne MARR. A&SH of Canada story - Page 3

alain cauchy · 27-01-2009, 09:22 PM

This picture has been taken from the river on the left bank, on Criquebeuf, the houses you can see are those near the rail road on the east.

DSC03458.JPG

that place is at the end of a small street in criquebeuf crossing the river Eure and arriving on the bank, it is called "allée de la 1ère division blindée polonaise 24 août 1944"

Do you know the story of the hostges that have been liberated in this village the 24 august ?

Please tell me exactly the pictures you want , and I shal return with a sky more clear

Cheers

ACY

Owen · 27-01-2009, 10:50 PM

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Do you know the story of the hostges that have been liberated in this village the 24 august ?

No I didn't know that.
Thanks for the pictures, i would have taken ones like that in 2007 but I had a small memory card.

Owen · 27-01-2009, 10:58 PM

I have this from a Veteran of the Argylls & Sutherland Highlanders of Canada, Art Bridge.

The railway embankment was quite high in relation to the surrounding countryside and a road passed under a viaduct at this point. The Algonquins who had crossed earlier , had gone through the viaduct and had dug in at a wooded area on the exposed side of the embankment in preparation of their attack on the town of Sotteville-sous-le-Val. It was evident that they had encountered enemy resistance there as we discovered several dead Algonquins when we went through the viaduct.

Fire was coming at us from the hills beyond the town and from our right , along the railway line.
Lt Whitehead directed a section of us to go down the sheltered side of the railway embankment in order to clear out this oppostion. We leap frogged our way under small arms fire but didn't find the culprits.

Meanwhile others of our battalion had gone through the undrpass and under the shelter of trees along the line , proceeded to clear as far as Igoville.

alain cauchy · 28-01-2009, 04:24 PM

Do you know the day of that ?

Owen · 29-01-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alain cauchy

Do you know the day of that ?

27th August 1944

Alain could you take some pictures of the hill behind Igoville, hill 95, the Argylls attacked that hill.
The Algonquins attacked the other hill, hill 88.

alain cauchy · 29-01-2009, 02:14 PM

The 24th august 1944, a german unit (SS) took 63 persons hostages in the village of Criquebeuf (the village on the oposite side of the river of sotteville), because of the death of a german soldier.

The persons were shut up in the church and in great danger to be killed.
During the Maire negociated , somebody went to the Allied lines in the south of the village to explain the situation. They decided to bomb here and there around the villege, and the german escaped.

Every year, the 24th of august there is a mass at the church to thanks God (help by the Allies...) to have avoid a tragedy.

It should be interesting to know which unit it was ? supposed it was the Argyll and Snthland, but the avrrived later the 27 ?
this point is worth studying, don't you think ?

OWEN, For the pictures, no problem, it depends on the weather, may be you can show me the 2 places on your wonderful map

ACY

alain cauchy · 30-01-2009, 05:09 PM

this a map of the 1950's of the area before the motorway, you can zoom, and a picture of Criquebeuf, Lorne marr had probably passed through this street before he crossed the river Seine.

criquebeuf ancien106.jpg

carte michelin agrandie.jpg

ACY

George Wilkinson · 30-01-2009, 09:49 PM

The Argyll's pulled into Serguigny at 1800 hours on the 24 and spent the night. On the 25th the pushed on to Louvers by 1300 hours. There they met the 19 Corps of the US Army. They then left on the 26th for Point de l'Arche and took up positions without much response from the enemy.
I hope this helps

George

Owen · 30-01-2009, 11:17 PM

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For the pictures, no problem, it depends on the weather, may be you can show me the 2 places on your wonderful map

The hills are the ones just north of Igoville, they overlook the village.

alain cauchy · 31-01-2009, 10:15 AM

Hi,

It is tremendous what I learn !

If the american you are talking on are the 30th infantry division, it means that Lorne Marr crossed the way of my two Gordons.
Because the 2 Bn Gordon Highlanders arrived at Louviers in the afternoon of wednesday the 25, coming from the east.
The american had arrived on Louviers at 9 heures 30 on that day.
And the Argyll at 13 heures.
The Gordon stayed there on Louviers-west and moved on to the west (Vironvay) to cross the river Seine on Sunday the 27.

(I believe it is not Serquigny, but Acquigny a few km south Louviers ?)

And when they arrived at Pont de l'Arche, The Argyll turned left on a few Km and crossed the Seine at Criquebeuf ?

Cheers

ACY

27-01-2009, 09:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mont-Saint-Aignan and Tournedos sur Seine Posts: 22	This picture has been taken from the river on the left bank, on Criquebeuf, the houses you can see are those near the rail road on the east. DSC03458.JPG that place is at the end of a small street in criquebeuf crossing the river Eure and arriving on the bank, it is called "allée de la 1ère division blindée polonaise 24 août 1944" Do you know the story of the hostges that have been liberated in this village the 24 august ? Please tell me exactly the pictures you want , and I shal return with a sky more clear Cheers ACY Last edited by alain cauchy; 29-01-2009 at 04:50 PM.

31-01-2009, 10:15 AM	#30 (permalink)
alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mont-Saint-Aignan and Tournedos sur Seine Posts: 22	Hi, It is tremendous what I learn ! If the american you are talking on are the 30th infantry division, it means that Lorne Marr crossed the way of my two Gordons. Because the 2 Bn Gordon Highlanders arrived at Louviers in the afternoon of wednesday the 25, coming from the east. The american had arrived on Louviers at 9 heures 30 on that day. And the Argyll at 13 heures. The Gordon stayed there on Louviers-west and moved on to the west (Vironvay) to cross the river Seine on Sunday the 27. (I believe it is not Serquigny, but Acquigny a few km south Louviers ?) And when they arrived at Pont de l'Arche, The Argyll turned left on a few Km and crossed the Seine at Criquebeuf ? Cheers ACY Last edited by alain cauchy; 31-01-2009 at 09:30 PM.

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Owen Grumpy Old Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 12,330	I have this from a Veteran of the Argylls & Sutherland Highlanders of Canada, Art Bridge. The railway embankment was quite high in relation to the surrounding countryside and a road passed under a viaduct at this point. The Algonquins who had crossed earlier , had gone through the viaduct and had dug in at a wooded area on the exposed side of the embankment in preparation of their attack on the town of Sotteville-sous-le-Val. It was evident that they had encountered enemy resistance there as we discovered several dead Algonquins when we went through the viaduct. Fire was coming at us from the hills beyond the town and from our right , along the railway line. Lt Whitehead directed a section of us to go down the sheltered side of the railway embankment in order to clear out this oppostion. We leap frogged our way under small arms fire but didn't find the culprits. Meanwhile others of our battalion had gone through the undrpass and under the shelter of trees along the line , proceeded to clear as far as Igoville.

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alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mont-Saint-Aignan and Tournedos sur Seine Posts: 22	Do you know the day of that ?

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alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mont-Saint-Aignan and Tournedos sur Seine Posts: 22	The 24th august 1944, a german unit (SS) took 63 persons hostages in the village of Criquebeuf (the village on the oposite side of the river of sotteville), because of the death of a german soldier. The persons were shut up in the church and in great danger to be killed. During the Maire negociated , somebody went to the Allied lines in the south of the village to explain the situation. They decided to bomb here and there around the villege, and the german escaped. Every year, the 24th of august there is a mass at the church to thanks God (help by the Allies...) to have avoid a tragedy. It should be interesting to know which unit it was ? supposed it was the Argyll and Snthland, but the avrrived later the 27 ? this point is worth studying, don't you think ? OWEN, For the pictures, no problem, it depends on the weather, may be you can show me the 2 places on your wonderful map ACY

30-01-2009, 05:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
alain cauchy 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mont-Saint-Aignan and Tournedos sur Seine Posts: 22	this a map of the 1950's of the area before the motorway, you can zoom, and a picture of Criquebeuf, Lorne marr had probably passed through this street before he crossed the river Seine. criquebeuf ancien106.jpg carte michelin agrandie.jpg ACY

30-01-2009, 09:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
George Wilkinson Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Burlington Ontario Posts: 70	The Argyll's pulled into Serguigny at 1800 hours on the 24 and spent the night. On the 25th the pushed on to Louvers by 1300 hours. There they met the 19 Corps of the US Army. They then left on the 26th for Point de l'Arche and took up positions without much response from the enemy. I hope this helps George

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