Flying Stukas? - Page 2

von Poop · 01-03-2007, 12:18 AM

Cheers, so not quite so worrying then.

Clip from the Battle of Britain film:
Stukas!
Does appear to be stock footage and models.

Andy in West Oz · 01-03-2007, 12:25 AM

And I thought having "Moderator" in your Avatar was enough to earn some respect!

Very cool recovery pics VP. Never found anything like that when I was diving!

Cheers

Andy

Gotthard Heinrici · 01-03-2007, 10:04 AM

It would be so cool to have a Stuka flying again and to be able to use those sirens whilst diving, its a sound I've always wondered about but thankfully never had to experience for real.

Ron Goldstein · 01-03-2007, 10:28 AM

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It would be so cool to have a Stuka flying again and to be able to use those sirens whilst diving, its a sound I've always wondered about but thankfully never had to experience for real.

I went back to my memoirs to see if I could find any references to Stukas but could only find this piece I'd written on dive-bombing.

BBC - WW2 People's War - Dive Bombing in Italy - A Memory Confirmed

I do remember (who could ever forget !) the noise that the Stukas used to make and can assure you it was never "cool"

Gotthard Heinrici · 01-03-2007, 11:38 AM

Ron the "Cool" reference was made in relation to the Stuka Flying but I apologise if my comments seemed flippant or throwaway.

Gibbo · 01-03-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy in West Oz

Adam, I think the Stukas used in The Battle of Britain film were flying models. However, I also seem to remember something about Proctors being modified. Don't know why that just popped into my head.

I think that Procters were converted but that it was then decided to use models instead. I don't know why. Perhaps the conversions didn't look right or maybe it was because almost all the Stukas in the film got shot down so the models would have to have been used anyway?

Gibbo · 01-03-2007, 12:42 PM

On further reflection, possibly the problem with the Proctors would have been their inability to dive in a Stuka-like manner?

von Poop · 01-03-2007, 01:32 PM

Is this the Proctor you mean? (I'm useless at planes) It would be quite a conversion but I can see how the very basic shape could be there.

From: Handy Visual reference of Hendon Collection.

Just how loud are we talking for the Stuka's howl Ron?
Near all of us would thankfully only have heard it recorded and without the added factor of imminent personal destruction.

Cheers,
Adam.

Ron Goldstein · 01-03-2007, 02:17 PM

Gotthard.....> Apology cheerfully accepted

Adam..........> on the two occasions when I remember coming under Stuka attack I was too involved in "hugging the dirt" to register the volume but I can confirm the sound was so high pitched as to be painful.

If the sirens were put there to scare the recipients they suceeded as far as I was concerned

01-03-2007, 12:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,471	Cheers, so not quite so worrying then. Clip from the Battle of Britain film: Stukas! Does appear to be stock footage and models. __________________ It's only the Internet.

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Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 760	And I thought having "Moderator" in your Avatar was enough to earn some respect! Very cool recovery pics VP. Never found anything like that when I was diving! Cheers Andy __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found Last edited by Andy in West Oz; 01-03-2007 at 12:29 AM.

01-03-2007, 10:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Pog mo thon Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,928	It would be so cool to have a Stuka flying again and to be able to use those sirens whilst diving, its a sound I've always wondered about but thankfully never had to experience for real. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian

01-03-2007, 11:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Pog mo thon Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,928	Ron the "Cool" reference was made in relation to the Stuka Flying but I apologise if my comments seemed flippant or throwaway. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian

01-03-2007, 12:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
Gibbo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 320	On further reflection, possibly the problem with the Proctors would have been their inability to dive in a Stuka-like manner? __________________ Martin

01-03-2007, 01:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,471	Is this the Proctor you mean? (I'm useless at planes) It would be quite a conversion but I can see how the very basic shape could be there. From: Handy Visual reference of Hendon Collection. Just how loud are we talking for the Stuka's howl Ron? Near all of us would thankfully only have heard it recorded and without the added factor of imminent personal destruction. Cheers, Adam. __________________ It's only the Internet.

01-03-2007, 02:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 838	Gotthard.....> Apology cheerfully accepted Adam..........> on the two occasions when I remember coming under Stuka attack I was too involved in "hugging the dirt" to register the volume but I can confirm the sound was so high pitched as to be painful. If the sirens were put there to scare the recipients they suceeded as far as I was concerned __________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942 Served as a Wireless-Op with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps. Served as a Loader-Op with the 4th QOH from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) Finished up as Tech Cpl for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

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