RAF losses 1943

MalcolmII · 16-06-2004, 12:15 AM

Hi
I am looking for a man who appears to be missing from CWGC reister. He is T.R.McRorie who is given on the RoH I am working on as ' Flt Lt RAF kia 1943 over Germany '
Does anyoe have a copy or access to Chorley's RAF Losses 1943 volume?

I have tried all sorts of combinations on CWGC and enquired to them directly but no information forthcoming. I know he studied Dentistry at Glasgow 1936 so my next stop is Glasgow Uni.
Help!!
Aye
MalcolmII

BlackSeptember1918 · 16-06-2004, 02:29 AM

Malcolm
There's a Thomas Frazier McCrorie listed as an RAF casualty on the cwgc site . Thats not your guy is it ?.
Phil.

MalcolmII · 16-06-2004, 01:42 PM

Phil,
I saw your email just after getting one from Glasgow saying no McRorie but there is a Thomas McCrorie. THANKS! Now to find out more about him.
Aye
Malcolm

Arthur · 19-06-2004, 05:17 PM

Malcolm,
Checked R. A. F. Bomber Command Losses WWII. 1943:
Page 199: 22-23 June:
No.75. Sqn, R. A. F.
Stirling Mk.III
Serial No.EH889 AA-Z
Operation Mulheim.

Crew:
F/L T. F. McCrorie + Lies in Hemelumer-Oldeferd [Molkwerum] Protestant
Churchyard.
Sgt E. Grainger + Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.
P/O W. Stuckey M.I.D. + Rests in Wonseradeel [Makkum] Protestant Churchyard.
Sgt J. L. Richards R.N.Z.A.F. + Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.
W.O.2 R. E. Tod. D.F.M. R.C.A.F. + Lie in Medemblik General Cemetery
W.O.2 R. D. Tod. R.C.A.F. + Lie in Medemblik General Cemetery
Sgt R. A. Kennedy + Lie in Wieringermeer [Middenmeer] General Cemetery

W.O.2 R. E. Tod’s award was Gazetted on 7 May 1943

Took off 23:48 hours from Newmarket. Shot down by a night-fighter [Oblt. Lothar Linke, IV./NJGI] and fell 00:26 hours into the IJsselmeer.

Note: Bomber Command War Diaries 1939-45: 557 aircraft took part in the operation and 35 of them were lost.

Regards

Arthur

MalcolmII · 20-06-2004, 11:58 PM

Arthur,
Thank you. You've saved me a trip to the Library in Edinburgh to look it up.
Many thanks.
Aye
MalcolmII

MalcolmII · 21-06-2004, 12:43 AM

Arthur,
How sad to note twin brothers Robert and Richard Tod from Manitoba now lie in graves 249 and 250 of Medemblik Cemetery.

Aye
MalcolmII

Arthur · 21-06-2004, 07:36 PM

Malcolm,
Although there might be other incidents like this one! I have not come across another one where a set of twins were lost on the same day through the same incident.

It really is quite tragic and must have been heart breaking for their parents.

Regards
Arthur

peter stuckey · 15-02-2006, 02:51 PM

Arthur,

You will have to excuse me if I make a mess of this as it is my first time on such a site.

For your information, Chorley is wrong regarding the night fighter pilot that shot down EH889.
Oblt. Lothar Linke, IV./NJGI was actually lost in action some months before EH889. The most likely pilot is Heinz Vinke who, according to the German records was the only pilot to claim a victory at that time and position. He also claimed it as a Sterling. The similarity in names is probably the reason for the mistake in Chorley.
Heinz Vinke (54 victories) was lost in the channel in 1944, shot down by a Typhoon.

Peter

spidge · 15-02-2006, 04:02 PM

Welcome Peter,

Look forward to future posts.

Arthur · 15-02-2006, 04:25 PM

Hi Peter,
Welcome.

Thankyou for your information my man. I have made a note of it and placed the information in my book for future reference.

Regards
Arthur

15-02-2006, 04:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
spidge Legendary Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8,044	Welcome Peter, Look forward to future posts. __________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
THE WAFFEN-SS: Divisional Service History, Brigade/Battalion Unit List + Unit Notes.	Christos	Axis Units	74	30-05-2008 11:42 PM
Raf Losses 1940	Paul Reed	The War In The Air	30	04-01-2008 09:18 PM
Luftwaffe Schrage Musik and RAF losses	The Aviator	The War In The Air	21	12-12-2007 02:20 AM
210 Squadron losses 13 June 1943	Steve Newman	The War In The Air	5	08-04-2007 08:24 PM
German Aircraft Carriers	paulyb102	Battle Specifics	20	26-03-2006 07:11 AM

16-06-2004, 12:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
MalcolmII Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 209	Hi I am looking for a man who appears to be missing from CWGC reister. He is T.R.McRorie who is given on the RoH I am working on as ' Flt Lt RAF kia 1943 over Germany ' Does anyoe have a copy or access to Chorley's RAF Losses 1943 volume? I have tried all sorts of combinations on CWGC and enquired to them directly but no information forthcoming. I know he studied Dentistry at Glasgow 1936 so my next stop is Glasgow Uni. Help!! Aye MalcolmII

16-06-2004, 02:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
BlackSeptember1918 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25	Malcolm There's a Thomas Frazier McCrorie listed as an RAF casualty on the cwgc site . Thats not your guy is it ?. Phil.

16-06-2004, 01:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
MalcolmII Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 209	Phil, I saw your email just after getting one from Glasgow saying no McRorie but there is a Thomas McCrorie. THANKS! Now to find out more about him. Aye Malcolm

19-06-2004, 05:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Arthur Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 98	Malcolm, Checked R. A. F. Bomber Command Losses WWII. 1943: Page 199: 22-23 June: No.75. Sqn, R. A. F. Stirling Mk.III Serial No.EH889 AA-Z Operation Mulheim. Crew: F/L T. F. McCrorie + Lies in Hemelumer-Oldeferd [Molkwerum] Protestant Churchyard. Sgt E. Grainger + Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. P/O W. Stuckey M.I.D. + Rests in Wonseradeel [Makkum] Protestant Churchyard. Sgt J. L. Richards R.N.Z.A.F. + Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. W.O.2 R. E. Tod. D.F.M. R.C.A.F. + Lie in Medemblik General Cemetery W.O.2 R. D. Tod. R.C.A.F. + Lie in Medemblik General Cemetery Sgt R. A. Kennedy + Lie in Wieringermeer [Middenmeer] General Cemetery W.O.2 R. E. Tod’s award was Gazetted on 7 May 1943 Took off 23:48 hours from Newmarket. Shot down by a night-fighter [Oblt. Lothar Linke, IV./NJGI] and fell 00:26 hours into the IJsselmeer. Note: Bomber Command War Diaries 1939-45: 557 aircraft took part in the operation and 35 of them were lost. Regards Arthur

20-06-2004, 11:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
MalcolmII Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 209	Arthur, Thank you. You've saved me a trip to the Library in Edinburgh to look it up. Many thanks. Aye MalcolmII

21-06-2004, 12:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
MalcolmII Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 209	Arthur, How sad to note twin brothers Robert and Richard Tod from Manitoba now lie in graves 249 and 250 of Medemblik Cemetery. Aye MalcolmII

21-06-2004, 07:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Arthur Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 98	Malcolm, Although there might be other incidents like this one! I have not come across another one where a set of twins were lost on the same day through the same incident. It really is quite tragic and must have been heart breaking for their parents. Regards Arthur

15-02-2006, 02:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
peter stuckey Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1	Arthur, You will have to excuse me if I make a mess of this as it is my first time on such a site. For your information, Chorley is wrong regarding the night fighter pilot that shot down EH889. Oblt. Lothar Linke, IV./NJGI was actually lost in action some months before EH889. The most likely pilot is Heinz Vinke who, according to the German records was the only pilot to claim a victory at that time and position. He also claimed it as a Sterling. The similarity in names is probably the reason for the mistake in Chorley. Heinz Vinke (54 victories) was lost in the channel in 1944, shot down by a Typhoon. Peter

15-02-2006, 04:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Arthur Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 98	Hi Peter, Welcome. Thankyou for your information my man. I have made a note of it and placed the information in my book for future reference. Regards Arthur

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)