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| The Dixie Division Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: American by birth, Southern by the grace of God
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Ron, I can certainly appreciate your disgust and understand your contempt, both are well placed. Were the graves adequately cleaned and were the perps apprehended? I am certainly hoping so on both parts. |
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| I love WW2 meah!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Middlesbrough
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<TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">Makes you wonder what these people were thinking when they vandalised these memorials. Fair enough if they wanna go and graffiti back alley walls or something, but they knew what they were vandalising. Dont they realise that they probably wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the people who's graves they were abusing. Sickening. </TD></TR><TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
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| I love WW2 meah!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Middlesbrough
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Just thought I'd add that the newspaper photo with Ron on it. Swastikas? Now that surely is taking the p#ss. Not as if they wrote "Rooney was here '97" or something just as stupid, but that is saying something. Not just mindless youth graffiti but something more sinister. Hang 'em up in the town centre and let us all prod them with sticks and red hot pokers.
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| WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England
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Jeff, Marcus & Adam Sorry if I the Sittingbourne incident caught me on the raw but I know you will appreciate how I feel about the bxxxxxxxds who go in for this sort of thing. I think it was Wendell Phillips who said "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance" and I have always made a point of not letting these utterly mindless characters go un-noticed. In answer to Jeff's query, the stones were soon cleaned up, the ones that were smashed into pieces took a while longer !
__________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942Served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the RAC I then served as Loader/Op with the 4th QOH (56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finally finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947 Last edited by Ron Goldstein; 11-01-2008 at 04:06 PM. Reason: typos |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hampshire
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Just looking at Ron's first post here, yes that sickens me a great deal too. I think we are all to quick to blame the youth of today, and I am probably guilty myself, but a look round at some of the official politcal party websites (I don't mean the main stream parties here and I'm not going to mention any names as these vermin don't deserve to have their names in the lights) and there are some very evil and twisted individuals about, they are quick to want to remember the dead of the two World Wars (with their unoffical walkpasts of the cenotaph), but just as quick to deny the holocaust. I personally think most of them know what they are doing, these people don't deserve a place in our society. The authorities should make us more aware of these people and their twisted antics. They make the most well known extreme right wing party seem very liberal indeed
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| WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England
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Since I last posted on this thread there have been further developments that I would like to bring to the site's attention. Last weekend the Jewish Cemetery at Plashet, East London was again attacked by vandals and between 30 and 40 gravestones pushed over. Some stones were smashed and decorative figures were removed from other graves. Several tombs were smashed in and a small fire was lit against one wall. On reading this, the name Plashet rang a bell with me and so I went to my records and found that it was Plashet cemetery that had been vandalised in September 2003 when an eight strong group of mindless thugs smashed no fewer than 385 gravestones. This, according to the London Evening Standard of 12/09/03: Two 16 year old youths later appeared at Stratford Youth Court and were told by the Magistrate, Jeanette Richardson "to put the incident behind them" and that "it was a very irresponsible thing that you did". The defence counsel, Elizabeth Neil denied the attacks were antisemitic and said "this is a nasty and un-pleasant offence, but it was not racially agravated". The pair, who cannot be named were at the time both full-time college students walked free from the court after receiving just six month's community service. One wonders whether the East London Magistrate has read of this current act of desecration and whether or not she feels in any way responsible for this current event, considering that in 2003 she was accused by a local Jewish Rabbi of having passed a sentence that was just a "slap on the wrist" ? A very disgusted Ron
__________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942Served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the RAC I then served as Loader/Op with the 4th QOH (56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finally finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947 Last edited by Ron Goldstein; 04-04-2008 at 03:44 PM. Reason: typos |
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| The Wiggles are ok! Join Date: Apr 2004
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I completely agree with you Ron, A despicable and shameful act.
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I realise that this particular report is out of date (it describes events of 2004) but I thought it worthy of inclusion in this thread which discusses mindless vandalism. In the Sunday Times Culture Magazine this week, was a review of a book by Anthony Julius entitled "Trials of the Diaspora: A History of Anti-Semitism in England" To illustrate the review there was this a picture of a defaced headstone of a Jewish soldier. I did some research and found him in "We will remember them", the official list of Jewish servicemen who died in WW2. Lt. Solomon was killed in an accident in the UK and was therefore buried in Aldershot.
__________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942Served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the RAC I then served as Loader/Op with the 4th QOH (56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finally finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947 Last edited by Ron Goldstein; 15-02-2010 at 11:31 AM. |
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