halewood village war dead research

[izzy]

i have been researching the halewood parish church war memorial and have info on most . however 1 man who was killed has a notice in a local newsletter which states arthur jones missing on a raid over germany lived at hillocks lane tarbock which is part of the parish.the article was dated november 1943. any help on who this service man may be would be welcome also any information on any of the war dead both wars would be welcome. halewood is about 8 miles south of liverpool .

[Owen]

Looked on CWGC for A Jones.
Of the list of 11 RAF men lost in 1943 there is one lost on July 4th.
CWGC :: Casualty Details
Doesn't say where he lived though.
I know it's a few months difference between July & November but maybe they were awiting news before putting info into local newspaper?
Anyway here a page from 97 Sqn website.
97 Squadron Association - Flight Operations

3/4 July 1943 Cologne – Bomb Load 4 x TI, 1 x 4000lb, 6 x 1000lb unless stated

EE917Q P/O L.G.Rembridge, Sgt R.C.Golding, P/O W.J.Hills, P/O H.W.Parry, W/O G.R.Cobby, Sgts F.M.Lamb, A.Jones. 1 x 4000lb 12 SBC. Up 2235 – aircraft and crew missing.

[Peter Clare]

Hi izzy,

Owen is quite right when he says there was a lapse of time between an airman being lost and the details being published in a local newspaper, it was a matter of was he KIA or a POW and the Air Ministry did not issue info until they were pretty sure of their facts.

Having said that, here are the details relating to the loss of Arthur Jones mentioned in Owens post.

3-4 July 1943.

97 Squadron.
Lancaster III ED917 OF-U
Op: Cologne

Crew.
P/O. L G. Rembridge +
Sgt. R C S. Golding +
P/O. W J. Hills +
F/O. H W. Parry +
W/O. G R. Cobby +
Sgt. F M. Lamb +
Sgt. A. Jones +

The aircraft took off from Bourn at 2235 hrs. Six are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial; F/O. Parry lies in Rheinberg War Cemetery.

Bomber Command Losses Vol.4 - W R. Chorley.

[kfz]

I take it 4xTI is Incendery?

[Peter Clare]

Originally Posted by kfz

I take it 4xTI is Incendery?

Possibly = Target Indicators.

"Illuminators"; were PFF aircraft flying in front of the main force who would drop markers or Target indicators ( TI's) onto the designated 'aiming point' already illuminated by the "Finders". Again, if conditions were cloudy H2S navigational radar was used. These TI's were designed to burn with various and varying colours to prevent the German defenses lighting decoy fires. Various TI's were dubbed 'Pink Pansies', 'Red Spots' , and 'Smoke Puffs'. "Illuminators" could include Mosquitoes equipped with 'Oboe' if the target was within the range of this highly accurate bombing aid.
"Markers"; would then drop incendiaries onto the TI's just prior to the Main Force arrival. Further "Markers" called " Backers-Up" or "Supporters" would be distributed at points within the main bomber stream to remark or reinforce the original TI's as required.

[Owen]

ED917 bomb load was 1 x 4000lb 12 SBC.
Was is SBC?

[Peter Clare]

Originally Posted by Owen D

ED917 bomb load was 1 x 4000lb 12 SBC.
Was is SBC?

Small Bomb Containers (SBC), each loaded with 236 x 4 lb No. 15 Incendiary and No. 15X Explosive Incendiary (1 in 10 mix) bombs. Total bomb load: 14,000 lbs.

[izzy]

thank's for replies iv'e thought . that it might have been him but after a bit of further research i found that he was born and bred in wigan. he worked in the mining industry and there is a collery under tarbock[ cronton collery] which may be the connection the only other airman that fits the bill was arthur sidney jones a londoner who died on 12/06/1943 while serving with 466 sqdn i have noticed with some names variation's many thanks to all