Dambusters - Finding their Final Resting Places and Headstones!

spidge · 03-03-2009, 02:18 PM

Dambusters: Where were their final resting places?

I thought this might be an interesting exercise for all, not just for me with the Australian involvement. The majority of course were British with other crew from Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the USA. (any others?)

Many died on the raid, many died not long after in 1943 and prior to the end of the war and some were POW. Many survived, do we know where they are buried? Can we gather photos of all their Headstones and Memorials to make a definitive album? Are there any who are still alive?

Does anyone have a total list to post of those who participated so we can check them off one by one over the months/years?? ahead. (I know there are websites which list them all however I do not have it on a spreadsheet to post.

There maybe some that you know of who survived the war and what they reverted to or did post war.

I hope this will become a very interesting thread.

My first is a "post war" burial and is listed on the next post!

1st edit: We should possibly include the others involved - Sir Arthur Harris and Barnes Wallis.

2nd edit: Addition of each crew in the three waves. Will be marked in red when Headstone & Personal Photo achieved.

spidge · 03-03-2009, 02:20 PM

Micky Martin (Harold Brownlow Morgan Martin KCB, DSO & Bar - DFC & Two Bars, AFC) and his crew also made a perfect hit on the Mohne Dam but failed to breach it. Micky Martin had a distinguished career during the war and in later life. Died age 70 on 3rd November 1988. Buried at Gunnersbury Cemetery in the western area of Chiswick in the borough of Hounslow. (Anybody live near for a photo?)

http://www.dambusters.org.uk/docs/ha...gan_martin.pdf

Drew5233 · 03-03-2009, 02:52 PM

Can I add this if anyone gets stuck....I had the pleasure of meeting Vic Hallam the other week and he's a very nice chap.

Dambusters

spidge · 03-03-2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew5233

Can I add this if anyone gets stuck....I had the pleasure of meeting Vic Hallam the other week and he's a very nice chap.

Dambusters

Thanks for that Drew.

Anything we get stuck on, Vic seems to be the man to speak to!

James S · 03-03-2009, 03:05 PM

The following is from ATB's "The Dams raid Through The Lens". BY Helmut Euler.

The survivors from the raid can be identified.

I would ask that folks indulge me placing a photo of "Niggers" grave , I don't in any way intend this to be disrespectful being a dog owner I just feel he too was a part of the event in historical terms.

Sad that the poor animals grave has now to be protected from potential thieves.

chrisharley9 · 03-03-2009, 03:10 PM

Spidge

Hope this helps from the Times of 29 Jan 1968
Chris

spidge · 03-03-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James S

The following is from ATB's "The Dams raid Through The Lens". BY Helmut Euler.

The survivors from the raid can be identified.

I would ask that folks indulge me placing a photo of "Niggers" grave , I don't in any way intend this to be disrespectful being a dog owner I just feel he too was a part of the event in historical terms.

Sad that the poor animals grave has now to be protected from potential thieves.

Thanks James,
Great photos and info.

There is a website which has the names listed like yours yet it has the nationality shown as well and if they survived the war.

spidge · 03-03-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisharley9

Spidge

Hope this helps from the Times of 29 Jan 1968
Chris

Hi Chris,

That name does not show up on any of my lists?

He was possibly with 617sq but not on the actual raid. It seems to read as he was.

52nd Airborne · 03-03-2009, 06:05 PM

I have photos of the following graves/memorial:

P/O L J Burpee
P/O L G Weller
W/O J G Brady
Sgt W C A Long
Sgt T Jaye
W/O J L Arthur
Sgt G Peglar

P/O V W Byers

W/C G P Gibson
F/L R E G Hutchinson
F/O F M Spafford
F/L T H Taerum
F/O G A Deering

F/L J V Hopgood
F/O G H F G Gregory
Sgt J W Minchin
Sgt C Brennan
F/O K Earnshaw

P/O C T Anderson
F/S J P Nugent
F/S E Ewan
F/S G J Green
Sgt A W Buck
F/S W D Bickle
Sgt R C Patterson

P/O W Ottley
Sgt R Marsden
Sgt J Guterman
Sgt H J Strange
F/S T B Johnston
F/O J K Barrett

F/L W Astell
Sgt J Kinnear
P/O E A Wile
F/S F A Garbas
W/O A Garshowitz
F/O D Hopkinson
Sgt R Bolitho

F/L R N G Barlow
P/O A Gillespie
F/O C R Williams
F/O H S Glinz
F/O P S Burgess
P/O S L Whillis
Sgt J R G Liddell

S/L H E Maudslay
Sgt J Marriott
F/O R A Urquhart
F/O W J Tyherleigh
P/O M J D Fuller
Sgt N R Burrows
W/O A P Cottam

Sgt D J D Powell

Sgt D Allatson

Sgt V Nicholson

52nd Airborne · 03-03-2009, 06:14 PM

I believe there are five veterans from the raid still alive:

Ray Grayston - Lives in the UK
George (Johnny) Johnson - Lives in the UK
Les Munro - Lives in New Zealand
Grant McDonald - Lives in Canada
Fred Sutherland - Lives in Canada

However, I stand corrected!

03-03-2009, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
spidge Very Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,301	Dambusters - Finding their Final Resting Places and Headstones! Dambusters: Where were their final resting places? I thought this might be an interesting exercise for all, not just for me with the Australian involvement. The majority of course were British with other crew from Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the USA. (any others?) Many died on the raid, many died not long after in 1943 and prior to the end of the war and some were POW. Many survived, do we know where they are buried? Can we gather photos of all their Headstones and Memorials to make a definitive album? Are there any who are still alive? Does anyone have a total list to post of those who participated so we can check them off one by one over the months/years?? ahead. (I know there are websites which list them all however I do not have it on a spreadsheet to post. There maybe some that you know of who survived the war and what they reverted to or did post war. I hope this will become a very interesting thread. My first is a "post war" burial and is listed on the next post! 1st edit: We should possibly include the others involved - Sir Arthur Harris and Barnes Wallis. 2nd edit: Addition of each crew in the three waves. Will be marked in red when Headstone & Personal Photo achieved. __________________ Spidge, My project is the collection of over 11,341 RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can? ------------------------------------------------------- My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2. My Avatar is the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages) My dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941. Last edited by spidge; 05-03-2009 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Additions

03-03-2009, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
spidge Very Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,301	Micky Martin (Harold Brownlow Morgan Martin KCB, DSO & Bar - DFC & Two Bars, AFC) Micky Martin (Harold Brownlow Morgan Martin KCB, DSO & Bar - DFC & Two Bars, AFC) and his crew also made a perfect hit on the Mohne Dam but failed to breach it. Micky Martin had a distinguished career during the war and in later life. Died age 70 on 3rd November 1988. Buried at Gunnersbury Cemetery in the western area of Chiswick in the borough of Hounslow. (Anybody live near for a photo?) http://www.dambusters.org.uk/docs/ha...gan_martin.pdf __________________ Spidge, My project is the collection of over 11,341 RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can? ------------------------------------------------------- My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2. My Avatar is the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages) My dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.

03-03-2009, 02:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Drew5233 Certa Cito Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 20,729	Can I add this if anyone gets stuck....I had the pleasure of meeting Vic Hallam the other week and he's a very nice chap. Dambusters __________________ Combat Communicators of the British Army Click here if you require War Diaries or Files from the National Archives

03-03-2009, 03:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
James S Very Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Omagh N.Ireland Posts: 2,998	The following is from ATB's "The Dams raid Through The Lens". BY Helmut Euler. The survivors from the raid can be identified. I would ask that folks indulge me placing a photo of "Niggers" grave , I don't in any way intend this to be disrespectful being a dog owner I just feel he too was a part of the event in historical terms. Sad that the poor animals grave has now to be protected from potential thieves. __________________ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gRx8tWJmI http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8poZshcDj8g http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUK7Dm-IPI http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c49tRp...eature=related http://www.open2.net/oulecture2005/the_lecture.html Last edited by James S; 03-03-2009 at 03:18 PM.

03-03-2009, 06:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
52nd Airborne Green Jacket Brat Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Looking for a Landing Zone Posts: 866	I have photos of the following graves/memorial: P/O L J Burpee P/O L G Weller W/O J G Brady Sgt W C A Long Sgt T Jaye W/O J L Arthur Sgt G Peglar P/O V W Byers W/C G P Gibson F/L R E G Hutchinson F/O F M Spafford F/L T H Taerum F/O G A Deering F/L J V Hopgood F/O G H F G Gregory Sgt J W Minchin Sgt C Brennan F/O K Earnshaw P/O C T Anderson F/S J P Nugent F/S E Ewan F/S G J Green Sgt A W Buck F/S W D Bickle Sgt R C Patterson P/O W Ottley Sgt R Marsden Sgt J Guterman Sgt H J Strange F/S T B Johnston F/O J K Barrett F/L W Astell Sgt J Kinnear P/O E A Wile F/S F A Garbas W/O A Garshowitz F/O D Hopkinson Sgt R Bolitho F/L R N G Barlow P/O A Gillespie F/O C R Williams F/O H S Glinz F/O P S Burgess P/O S L Whillis Sgt J R G Liddell S/L H E Maudslay Sgt J Marriott F/O R A Urquhart F/O W J Tyherleigh P/O M J D Fuller Sgt N R Burrows W/O A P Cottam Sgt D J D Powell Sgt D Allatson Sgt V Nicholson __________________ *52nd Airborne.* Remembering the fallen from the 5th Hampshire Regiment, The Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry and 1RGJ. Last edited by 52nd Airborne; 03-03-2009 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Found another photo!

03-03-2009, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
52nd Airborne Green Jacket Brat Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Looking for a Landing Zone Posts: 866	I believe there are five veterans from the raid still alive: Ray Grayston - Lives in the UK George (Johnny) Johnson - Lives in the UK Les Munro - Lives in New Zealand Grant McDonald - Lives in Canada Fred Sutherland - Lives in Canada However, I stand corrected! __________________ *52nd Airborne.* Remembering the fallen from the 5th Hampshire Regiment, The Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry and 1RGJ.

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